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Old 02-25-2005, 01:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Smile What is going on???

Yesterday I've noticed a funny thing... I've been admitted to PhD by Indiana Bloomington (which is 33 in the ranking) and Northwestern (27 respectively). Yesterday I got a reject mail from University of Notre Dame which is 43 in the ranking... Now I understand one of my LoR writers telling me "Well, actually it depends on nothing and everything wheather you will be admitted or not..."

I got an admission from Northeastern Univ. My new goal? To get into the Northnorthern and Northsouthern Univ...
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What is going on???

especially for PhD, the ranking is not that relevant
(in fact, one can hardly argue that any ranking is the RIGHT ranking)

the more important is whether there is a "match" for your interests in their PhD program.
one nice example: there are CS areas which are not researched at all in some of the top 10 schools; so if you are interested in such area...

my point: why all of us care so much about school rank!?
also, in five years many school ranks will have changed...
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: What is going on???

That's a good point and it's hardly to argue with... However... it's a funny thing still.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: What is going on???

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I got an admission from Northeastern Univ. My new goal? To get into the Northnorthern and Northsouthern Univ...
LOL. You can do anything you set your mind to, WRusin! BTW, are there universities like that?

W, I have one small request. When this application ordeal is completely over and you have got your visa, could you please post the final tally chart thread here?
It will be so interesting to see where you got in, where you got interviews and analyse what could have been the factors that most influenced the admits.

In fact since the universities you have applied to are spread over the entire ranking spectrum of 1 to 100, we all will have a once in a lifetime chance of seeing how one common profile affected admission chances in all the universities.

Cheers and all the best!
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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W, I have one small request. When this application ordeal is completely over and you have got your visa, could you please post the final tally chart thread here?
It will be so interesting to see where you got in, where you got interviews and analyse what could have been the factors that most influenced the admits.

In fact since the universities you have applied to are spread over the entire ranking spectrum of 1 to 100, we all will have a once in a lifetime chance of seeing how one common profile affected admission chances in all the universities.
Well, that's a great idea. We, applicants for Fall 2006 wish to see this kind of stat WRusin!
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: What is going on???

Very good suggestion Dingus...
I second that...
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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especially for PhD, the ranking is not that relevant
(in fact, one can hardly argue that any ranking is the RIGHT ranking)

the more important is whether there is a "match" for your interests in their PhD program.
one nice example: there are CS areas which are not researched at all in some of the top 10 schools; so if you are interested in such area...

my point: why all of us care so much about school rank!?
also, in five years many school ranks will have changed...
Why do we care? Because we want our academic career to continue past the Ph.d.

I can't speak for other programs besides math. However, in math, ranking is very important. No particular ranking matters, but the rankings are reflective of the reputation of the department. If you want any realistic chance of getting a postdoc and a tenured position at a research institution, you really need to be at a Group I school. There is an actual research paper that demonstrates this (can't find the link right now).
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: What is going on???

I agree with you Dingus...we shall have a comrehensive picture of the general trend in the admission process.

WRuskin .. we are waiting for the final Tally..
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I agree with you Dingus...we shall have a comrehensive picture of the general trend in the admission process.
Not really. It won't be general because it will be just one profile of an extraordinary candidate. It won't be comprehensive because it would just be for Math. Ph.D. The sample size won't be sufficient, and the time trends would be missing. So while it may not serve the purpose of generalization, it will definitely be an interesting case-study.


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WRuskin .. we are waiting for the final Tally..

BTW, WRusin, you need not post it till May/June 2005, and that too, only if you want to.
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Old 02-25-2005, 06:33 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It won't be comprehensive because it would just be for Math. Ph.D. The sample size won't be sufficient, and the time trends would be missing. So while it may not serve the purpose of generalization, it will definitely be an interesting case-study.

Personally, being a math applicant myself, I really want to see it!!!
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