TestMagic Forums http://www.urch.com/forums Free test prep and admissions forum. GMAT, SAT Prep, GRE, TOEFL. en Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:54:53 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.urch.com/forums/tm_images/misc/rss.jpg TestMagic Forums http://www.urch.com/forums cookies assortment http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129078-cookies-assortment.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:32:08 GMT ) In a bag of cookies, there are 4 chocolate chip cookies, 8 sugar cookies, and 6 oatmeal cookies. Steve reaches into the bag without looking and takes out 2 cookies. What is the probability that they are both chocolate chip cookies? A. 12/306 B. 12/109 C. 8/306 D. 2/4 E. 3/5 CB ) In a bag of cookies, there are 4 chocolate chip cookies, 8 sugar cookies, and 6 oatmeal cookies. Steve reaches into the bag without looking and takes out 2 cookies. What is the probability that they are both chocolate chip cookies?

A. 12/306
B. 12/109
C. 8/306
D. 2/4
E. 3/5

CB ]]> GRE Math computer-bot http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129078-cookies-assortment.html prefer uploading LORs online or mailing them? http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129076-prefer-uploading-lors-online-mailing-them.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:42:51 GMT Just curious. It seems most unversities are using online system now. Some even do not accept mailed letters. Just curious.
It seems most unversities are using online system now. Some even do not accept mailed letters. ]]> PhD in Economics khseaman http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129076-prefer-uploading-lors-online-mailing-them.html Power prep problems http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129075-power-prep-problems.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:39:18 GMT Could someone show me how to do these problems? Thanks in advance! 1. absolute value (r-s)+abs value (t-r) = abs value (t-s) Col A abs value r Col B abs value t 2. Seven one dollar bills are to be distributed among lucia, gomez and domingo so that each person receives atleast one dollar. Could someone show me how to do these problems? Thanks in advance!

1. absolute value (r-s)+abs value (t-r) = abs value (t-s)
Col A
abs value r
Col B
abs value t

2. Seven one dollar bills are to be distributed among lucia, gomez and domingo so that each person receives atleast one dollar.

col A
no. of ways to distribute the bills so that atleast one person receives atleast $3

Col B
The total no. of ways to distribute the bills ]]> GRE Math vasoolraja http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129075-power-prep-problems.html GMAT 740 (M 50, V 40) http://www.urch.com/forums/just-finished-my-gmat/129074-gmat-740-m-50-v-40-a.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:38:35 GMT It's over with 740, making me go ga-ga. I always used to visit this section and always dreamt of typing in one day. Finally, the day has come...yipppieee :grad:

This was my thrid attempt. 2 years back I wrote GMAT for the first time. I took coaching which I later realized taught me just a tip of this iceberg. I prepared for 3 months then and scored 660. Pretty bad and demotivating for me. But soon I realised that i wasn't prepared enough. I wasn't able to study for an year and earlier this year I decided to prepare again, but unfortunately just 10 days before my exam date, typhoid hit me. I wasn't able to study for those 10 days and wrote paper in high fever. Ended up with 640. I was
broken but I decided to give my last shot. I again studied for 3.5 months and here I'm with 740 (M50, V40). I'm flying high right now, so so excited :)

Preperation for maths: Being a computer engineer, I was always been pretty comfortable with Maths. I didn't do much of preperation as well.
I studied:
1. Official Guide 10/11/12 (though i realise that OG alone is not at all suffice to score high in maths)
2. GMATPrep questions posted at manhattan forum
3. A collection of 175 questions from manhattan forum - awesome collection

Offlate, I've been hearing and reading that Maths level has gone tough and a few questions are reaching manhattan level, but frankly speaking I didn't find so. I would say it is gone a bit tough but it is still more or less gmatPrep level. Just be careful about DS traps as I saw a lot of DS questions back to back.

Preperation for Verbal: This was the real nightmare and thus I concentrated on this section like anything.

critical reasoning:
1. critical reasoning Bible - Understanding each and every concept is not enough. Try to implement it while making questions. This is the major difference in my prep this time.
2. Practice LSAT questions - They are tough, brutal but help amazingly to make you think critically. Atleast they helped me. I did around 500 LSAT questions.
3. Maintained log of each question in an excel file explaning what I was thinking while making this question and what i was suppose to think to make a question correct.
4. Official Guide 10/11/12 - Start with OG and end with OG. I completed OG questions except the last 40 questions, which are relatively tougher than earlier questions. Then I practised LSAT question regularly for 3 months every alternate day, and then towards the end I practised those 40 OG questions. Compare the accuracy against that of the earlier OG questions.
5. Forums (Manhattan and testmagic) - After saturating everything.
6. Keep tracking logs and the highlighted points in them.
My accuracy reached almost 90-95% in critical reasoning.

reading comprehension (My weakest area):
reading comprehension Bible - This is a nice book, but what matters in reading comprehension is practice, practice and practice
My accuracy reached almost 80% in reading comprehension.

SC (My strongest area):
1. Manhattan 3rd edition: Revise it as many times as you can. I revised it atleast 10 times and everytime i learned something new.
2. Official Guide: I practiced it 2-3 times. But what helped me more is to familiarize myself with correct and incorrect style used my GMAT. For this I just read all the OG questions several times. Just reading no practising.
3. Manhattan GmatPrep Forum: Must do. Here i would like take an opportunity to thanks Manhattan tutors (esp. Ron) for their crisp and clear explanations. My accuracy reached almost 95-100% in SC and i owe this to manhattan tutors.
4. Testmagic forum
5. Adhamjons SC notes
6. PSahil notes
7. Erin's notes
8. I prepared a log of all the questions which I found different or tough from various sources, and revised them many times. This really helped.

To sumup, I observed that two things are very important for critical reasoning and SC :2cents::
1. Rules
2. Pattern recognition (this is more important).

Tests:
Manhattan test 1: 670
Manhattan test 2: 680
Manhattan test 3: 710
Manhattan test 4: 770
GMAT prep 1: 770 (a few repeated questions)
GMAT prep 2: 760 (a few repeated questions)
Manhattan test 5: 770
Manhattan test 6: 740
By manhattan test 6, I was confident enought to slay the beast ;)

Last but not the least, I would like to thanks two important persons without whom I would not have achived this. My bro Divyang, who supported me at every moment and my friend Abhas Jha, who guided me at every moment and much more :)

I'm already running late with my applications. I've 5+ years of experience and have an average curricular activities in my profile.
Do you think I can make it to London Business School (my dream school)?

I'll be more than happy to reply any questions. Never loose hope. Keep fighting :tup: ]]> Just Finished My GMAT aras82 http://www.urch.com/forums/just-finished-my-gmat/129074-gmat-740-m-50-v-40-a.html Would you ever? http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129073-would-you-ever.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:28:30 GMT Would any of you ever consider not attending a school because you felt it was too "good" for you?

For those of us who are placing ourselves in the 15-35 range. What would happen if you happened to fluke into MIT? Would the though "maybe I should stick to a school where I am a strong candidate" cross your mind?

This is just purely out of interest, and it doesn't really apply to me, because I am not really applying to massive reaches. ]]> PhD in Economics gbea http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129073-would-you-ever.html need to pick last recommendation...urgent! http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129072-need-pick-last-recommendation-urgent.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:15:36 GMT I have two of my rec's picked, and I'm debating between having my third recommender be:

1. lecturer who advised me on my honors thesis who rly likes me
2. lecturer who doubles as the undergrad adviser who also rly likes me, but another professor (who understands grad admissions fairly well) said he would have a better gauge of my ranking among the class of econ students and might have more experience sending students to grad school.

I'm leaning towards the prof who advised me on my thesis, since my other two recs are from well-known professors, but whom I've only done classwork for, and this could give adcoms another perspective on my app. However, I can't totally dismiss the advice of that professor.

What do you think? ]]> PhD in Economics seniorplow http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129072-need-pick-last-recommendation-urgent.html average gre and gpa scores of top schools http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129071-average-gre-gpa-scores-top-schools.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:12:16 GMT I was recently asked the following: ---Quote--- Do you by any chance have mean GPA and quant GRE scors of those admitted to various top 10 schools? ---End Quote--- You can probably get this data pretty easy from the csv file at http://tmanalysis.econwiki.com/difficulty.csv. Just load it up in... I was recently asked the following:

Quote:
Do you by any chance have mean GPA and quant GRE scors of those admitted to various top 10 schools?
You can probably get this data pretty easy from the csv file at http://tmanalysis.econwiki.com/difficulty.csv. Just load it up in excel (and pivot tables or use sumif and countif) or your favorite statistical software - let me know if you have any questions. The thing is, there is a selection bias up on this forum, people posting here generally have higher than average scores (or they report their scores that way), so the actual averages will certainly be lower (Harvard does accept people with less than 800 GRE quantitative scores, for instance). Thus, if you want this information accurately, many of the schools report on it, and others will tell you if you ask. Testmagic data will not, however, be able to provide these numbers (and I will certainly not be able to interpret them perfectly, as they are but a small part of the whole admission story). ]]> PhD in Economics untitled http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129071-average-gre-gpa-scores-top-schools.html Probability problem http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129070-probability-problem.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:10:24 GMT *HOW??*:mad: If thats true then 1 = P(Only men) + P(Only Women) +...]]> From a group of 10 women and 5 men, 2 people are selected at random to form a committee. Find the probability that exactly 1 man and 1 woman is selected.

P(exactly 1 man and 1 woman) = 1 - P(Only men) - P(Only Women) --> HOW??:mad:

If thats true then

1 = P(Only men) + P(Only Women) + P(exactly 1 man and 1 woman)

Is the above equation true??
CB ]]> GRE Math computer-bot http://www.urch.com/forums/gre-math/129070-probability-problem.html A practical question about transcripts http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129069-practical-question-about-transcripts.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:07:06 GMT Hi guys, In Canada, most schools ask that transcripts be mailed institution to institution, and not pass through students hands It is my impression that this is not the standard practice for American schools, as they often ask a) all materials be sent with department name applied to or... Hi guys,


In Canada, most schools ask that transcripts be mailed institution to institution, and not pass through students hands

It is my impression that this is not the standard practice for American schools, as they often ask

a) all materials be sent with department name applied to or other personal information so it is easily added to the applicant's file
or
b) all application materials be sent in one package (ie transcripts from multiple schools)

which would be impossible to do if it was sent institution to institution.

I am assuming that what they want is for me to get sealed transcripts from my schools and then put these together in an envelope with other documents (eg. visa stuff) and my information. However, a lot of American schools are not specific about this, and this would be a no-no at some Canadian schools. Can anyone confirm or deny that I am on the right track?

Thank you so much, and my apologies for the content of this message. I know that this is not what this board is for. I hope my participation in other discussions on this forum as merited me enough leeway to get away with this. ]]> PhD in Economics gbea http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/129069-practical-question-about-transcripts.html Yet another GPrep DS http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-data-sufficiency/129068-yet-another-gprep-ds.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:59:48 GMT Please discuss Please discuss
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]]> GMAT Data Sufficiency atishree http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-data-sufficiency/129068-yet-another-gprep-ds.html GPrep DS doubt again http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-data-sufficiency/129067-gprep-ds-doubt-again.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:42:12 GMT Please explain... Please explain...
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]]> GMAT Data Sufficiency atishree http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-data-sufficiency/129067-gprep-ds-doubt-again.html More shoes are sold.... http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-critical-reasoning/129066-more-shoes-sold.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:26:35 GMT More shoes are sold in Town A than in Town B. Therefore the population of Town A is better heeled than the population of Town B. Each of the following, if true, weakens the conclusion drawn here except: A There are more shoe stores in Town A. B Town B only has stores that sell running... More shoes are sold in Town A than in Town B. Therefore the population of Town A is better heeled than the population of Town B.

Each of the following, if true, weakens the conclusion drawn here except:

A There are more shoe stores in Town A.
B Town B only has stores that sell running shoes.
C The average price for the same pair of shoes is less in Town A than in Town B.
D Town A has a larger population than Town B.
E Most citizens of Town B work in Town A and therefore find it more convenient to buy their shoes there.


I found it a little confusing.
]]> GMAT Critical Reasoning BooMat http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-critical-reasoning/129066-more-shoes-sold.html A new GMAT exam Prep website! (GMATquestion.com) http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-math/129065-new-gmat-exam-prep-website-gmatquestion-com.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:00:30 GMT Hello everyone, I am new to this forum, but already midway through studying for the GMAT exam. My friends and I decided to create a website to help us, and others like us study for the GMAT exam. We finished developing the website very recently, and i was wondering what you think of it. I would... Hello everyone,

I am new to this forum, but already midway through studying for the GMAT exam.

My friends and I decided to create a website to help us, and others like us study for the GMAT exam.

We finished developing the website very recently, and i was wondering what you think of it.

I would really appreciate any comments, constructive criticism, etc.

The website is GMATquestion.com

Thanks! :) ]]> GMAT Math GMATquestion http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-math/129065-new-gmat-exam-prep-website-gmatquestion-com.html 750 (Q49,V42) http://www.urch.com/forums/just-finished-my-gmat/129064-750-q49-v42.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:34:52 GMT Hi all I sat the test today, and got nice 750 (Q49,V42). I was not posting on this forum, but I read extensively through the results/debrief posts in this section. This info helped me a lot, so I want to give this forum back. _Me_ I am Russian, 26, and this was my first GMAT attempt. I have... Hi all

I sat the test today, and got nice 750 (Q49,V42).

I was not posting on this forum, but I read extensively through the results/debrief posts in this section. This info helped me a lot, so I want to give this forum back.

Me
I am Russian, 26, and this was my first GMAT attempt. I have graduated from the local university, and have 5 years of working experience as an auditor/investment analyst. I have to admit that the single most important factor in my relatively high score is my prior education/background. I had strong math at my university, and my English is fine. However I still believe my 2 cents might be helpful here.

Quant
Most people on this forum said that Manhattan GMAT books are a winner, so I read only them. They are extremely good. I think what Manhattan GMAT author do is they take all available GMAT questions from GMAC (Official Guide + QR + VR + GMATPrep), analyse them, and prepare books that include all tested concepts broken down by 5 major topics (same with verbal). I.e. their starting point is the most relevant questions themselves. This makes studying these books very efficient, because you learn only what you need, and to the extent you need. Their ‘basics’ sections are too straightforward, but still useful if you have to remind yourself the material you have studied some 8-10 years ago. As for practising, I solved after the chapters problems from Manhattan GMAT, and OG/QR (not all of them, but 80-90%). Nothing else.

Verbal
I think that the only area you can make real progress on GMAT relatively quickly is SC. This is because here GMAT tests set of rules of written English, which you can learn easily and quickly. At the same time, reading comprehension and critical reasoning test your English and your logical capabilities. My view is that although these can be improved, it will take much more time, so my advice is to concentrate on SC. I did exactly this, and 70% of my time spent on verbal sections was devoted to SC.

Everybody says here Manhattan GMAT is the best in SC, and Powerscore critical reasoning Bible – in critical reasoning. So I read these two books, and found both of them really good. On reading comprehension, I read Manhattan GMAT, which is fine as well.

On verbal section, apart from these books and OG/VR, I read/solved nothing else.

The right strategy for SC is to grasp the rules, and then practice a lot. I prepared notes of Manhattan GMAT SC, and did most of OG problems.

With respect to reading comprehension/critical reasoning, without disregarding my previous comment, I still advise you to read at least book on critical reasoning, and preferably both, and of course do some practice. When unprepared to GMAT peculiarities, you read answer choice on critical reasoning problem, and feel something is wrong, but can’t determine what exactly is incorrect. Same thing with nother 2-3 choices. You get confused, and you make a mistake. critical reasoning Bible will show you where to watch for pitfalls. You will start spotting mistakes more quickly and will become more confident in your answers. Same applies to reading comprehension, to a lesser extent though. Finally, I was not practicing either reading comprehension or critical reasoning much.

General
- I think efficient approach is first to grasp theory, and than practice questions
- Do not practice OG prior to reading theory
- I recommend prepare notes on verbal books while you read them. This will structure concepts in your mind, and will help you to remember them
- GMATPrep rocks. Got yesterday 740 on GMATPrep test, and 750 on real test today. It is very good predictor of your real performance
- my observation is that quant is slightly harder on real GMAT than on GMATPrep, while verbal – slightly easier

If you have any questions, I will be more than happy to answer them.

Again many thanks to those posted here before, and good luck to all of you on your GMAT. ]]> Just Finished My GMAT Stos http://www.urch.com/forums/just-finished-my-gmat/129064-750-q49-v42.html <![CDATA[What's the correct usage]]> http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/129063-whats-correct-usage.html Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:19 GMT (1) I have to ask a favor of you. (2) I have to ask a favor from you. (1) I have to ask a favor of you.

(2) I have to ask a favor from you. ]]> GMAT Sentence Correction atishree http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-sentence-correction/129063-whats-correct-usage.html