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rcmv · 2002 February 12th, 10:30 AM

Erin, could you please help with this one from your "Printable Toefl Exercises"???

5. Most of American high school students claim they know how to read, yet many of them can not do so at a high enough level to participate in modern society.

Thanks,

RCMV

**Erin** · 2002 February 12th, 10:51 PM

This one's tricky! It almost sounds correct, but it's hard to explain why, don't you think?

Anyway, we have the same problem here as we have in this sentence:

Most of people in the U.S. have a telephone.

This sentence should read:

Most of all people in the U.S. have a telephone.

Why?

We have a rule in English that says we need to use a determiner in this position. Here's the rule:

quantifier + of + determiner + noun

OR

quantifier + of + pronoun

If any of these terms are confusing, go to my grammar index to learn more:

http://www.TestMagic.com/Knowledge_B...mmar/index.htm

keepsmiling · 2003 April 15th, 08:16 AM

according to me , I think :
almost all (of the)
most (of the)

feiren · 2003 November 27th, 06:58 AM

i see

aivoges · 2004 February 20th, 09:37 AM

So Erin, is it similar for "all". Should I say: "All of the people" or "All of people". I am a little confused

Thanks

nirvanas · 2004 February 28th, 07:35 AM

Erin, you have mentioned that the 'Most of all people' is correct because its of the form quantifier + of + determiner + noun. But "all" is not a determiner. So how is this form correct?
"all" is a quantifier.
To Aivoges question, I think the first one is correct gramatically (although I have never seen its usage) because its of the form "quantifier (all) + of + determiner (the) + noun. What do you think of this Erin?

mayaly · 2004 March 16th, 09:22 AM

hello everybody! I must confess that I haven't seen that expression - most of the people. or at least I haven't paid any attention on it.

mayaly · 2004 March 16th, 09:27 AM

i think that "most people" is good,but "all of the people" sounds strange for me. What do you think

Wacika · 2004 March 16th, 01:25 PM

Hi Mayaly,
I think 'all of the people'sounds alright to me,
what about 'all of the members'?
Erin, can U tell explain it to us por favor, El Señor?
Thanks

meteor · 2005 September 17th, 06:27 PM

We have:
Most people...
Most of all people...
Most of people ...
Almost all people...

Are they all true, is there any other structures with almost or most?
Thanks a lot.

2002 February 12th, 10:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
Erin Did it. Forum Admin Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: USA Posts: 8,715	This one's tricky! It almost sounds correct, but it's hard to explain why, don't you think? Anyway, we have the same problem here as we have in this sentence: Most of people in the U.S. have a telephone. This sentence should read: Most of all people in the U.S. have a telephone. Why? We have a rule in English that says we need to use a determiner in this position. Here's the rule: quantifier + of + determiner + noun OR quantifier + of + pronoun If any of these terms are confusing, go to my grammar index to learn more: http://www.TestMagic.com/Knowledge_B...mmar/index.htm _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ ☼ It's BACK! Sentence Correction ☼ 98 fans on Facebook. 902 to go!

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2002 February 12th, 10:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
rcmv I JUST got here. Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 8	Erin, could you please help with this one from your "Printable Toefl Exercises"??? 5. Most of American high school students claim they know how to read, yet many of them can not do so at a high enough level to participate in modern society. Thanks, RCMV

2003 April 15th, 08:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
keepsmiling Eager! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vietnam Posts: 77	according to me , I think : almost all (of the) most (of the)

2003 November 27th, 06:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
feiren I JUST got here. Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 4	i see

2004 February 20th, 09:37 AM	#5 (permalink)
aivoges Within my grasp! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Will land on the Moon! Posts: 148	So Erin, is it similar for "all". Should I say: "All of the people" or "All of people". I am a little confused Thanks

2004 February 28th, 07:35 AM	#6 (permalink)
nirvanas I JUST got here. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 10	Erin, you have mentioned that the 'Most of all people' is correct because its of the form quantifier + of + determiner + noun. But "all" is not a determiner. So how is this form correct? "all" is a quantifier. To Aivoges question, I think the first one is correct gramatically (although I have never seen its usage) because its of the form "quantifier (all) + of + determiner (the) + noun. What do you think of this Erin?

2004 March 16th, 09:22 AM	#7 (permalink)
mayaly Eager! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 69	hello everybody! I must confess that I haven't seen that expression - most of the people. or at least I haven't paid any attention on it.

2004 March 16th, 09:27 AM	#8 (permalink)
mayaly Eager! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Bulgaria Posts: 69	i think that "most people" is good,but "all of the people" sounds strange for me. What do you think

2004 March 16th, 01:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wacika I JUST got here. Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 17	Hi Mayaly, I think 'all of the people'sounds alright to me, what about 'all of the members'? Erin, can U tell explain it to us por favor, El Señor? Thanks

2005 September 17th, 06:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
meteor I JUST got here. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Vietnam Posts: 29	We have: Most people... Most of all people... Most of people ... Almost all people... Are they all true, is there any other structures with almost or most? Thanks a lot.

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