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The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.
(A) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing (B) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed (C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing (D) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed (E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, "which were determined by when the sun reached the observer's meridian and differing". The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, "determined by when the sun reached the observer's meridian and differed" whats the difference between using ...which were determined... and ...determined... is it that - when "which were determined" is used - that it applies to local times ? what is similar explanation for the usage of "determined..." This will be a great help. |
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This is essentially a parallel structure question. It's a hard one, what I call "advanced parallel structure."
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The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed from city to city, and [the growth [of the railroads [also] led] to the establishment of regional times. This is what the "original" sentence would look like. You will notice that: which were determined is parallel with which differed These two parts are adjective clauses and can be "reduced" such that they become adjective phrases (or participial phrases in this particular case): determined is still parallel with differing Okay, that's the first point. The second point is this: The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which because "were" is the verb for the relative pronoun "which," which replaces the head noun "times." And I think these two rules should give you answer choice (E). HTH!! |
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Erin,
Could you please explain to us why which differed can be short to differing, why not to differed Thanks. She Lee <edit>Erin, Never mind. I think I know now. Since "local times" is the subject of the verb "differ", we should not use passive voice "v+ed".</edit> |
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This one's easy to explain, but unfortunately, it's also easy to miss!
I read your explanation, and I think that you are essentially right, but I just want to make sure. (Now I'm going to copy some information from another post.) Quote:
When we reduce a verb to its -ing or -ed form, we must look at one and only one thing: whether the noun that it will modify is the subject or object of that verb. The -ing form is used for DOING the action, which means SUBJECT, which means ACTIVE voice. The -ed form is used for RECEIVING the action, which means OBJECT, which means PASSIVE voice. Before I go further, let me offer two examples that will make things clearer as we go along:
The next step is to realize that these participles all come from verbs--speaking and spoken both come from the verb speak. Now, using these examples, and applying them to the rules I mentioned at the beginning, we will notice that if we made a sentence, person would be the subject of the verb speak and words would be the object of the verb speak. Using this procedure, we can figure out whether should use the -ing or -ed form of a participle that modifies a noun. And that's it!! Of course, this is easy when the vocab is easy, and we often get confused when we are using difficult vocab because we sometimes don't know whether something is the subject or the object of the verb, but this procedure that I have explained is the only sure way to get the right answer. In our sentence here, which replaces times, and times is the object of determined, but it is the subject of differed. In other words, we have something like this: ...somebody determined times... but times differed... I know some of you have learned that we should only use the -ing form only for actions that are ongoing/in progress in the present, but that's simply not true. We do occasionally use them correctly for past actions that were ongoing/in progress. Finally, everybody gets confused simply because the -ed form appears in the second one, making people think the -ed form should appear again when it's reduced. We need to realize that there is truly no connection (for our purposes here in GMATland, anyway !!!!) between the two; it's pure coincidence that each has the -ed form in it!!!If you stick to the rules that I just wrote, you'll be okay. |
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Woha...what an explaination! Thanks, Erin. That was very informative. I was wondering if you could comment on my another post, titled "Quant. Words". Although, I know some of 'em but I am sure that your explaination will give me a better insight. Thanks in advace.
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Re: Hard GMAT Question: The growth of the railroads led to the a
Hello folks,
I just joined the forum and very much a beginner with things GMAT related. I hit upon this superb post by my getting carried away with my excitement about testmagicforums. My question is.. Iam still not clear why answer choice E instead of C. In other words whats wrong with the "which were". If this is a very basic question just as a beginning novice would ask and you cant bother to answer in detail could you atleast direct me to a thread that has already discussed the role of "which" in gmatland. thanks rsr80 |
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growth of the railroads
1. The growth of the railroads led to the abolition of local times, which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing from city to city, and to the establishment of regional times.
(A) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing (B) which was determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and which differed (C) which were determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing (D) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differed (E) determined by when the sun reached the observer’s meridian and differing I know this question has been discussed exhaustively in the past. Still, I don't understand why D is incorrect. OA is E. |
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Re: growth of the railroads
This is the part I don't understand. Can someone explain? How is determined parallel with differing? Also the local times are now abolished so why will we use present tense?
"which were determined is parallel with which differed These two parts are adjective clauses and can be "reduced" such that they become adjective phrases (or participial phrases in this particular case): determined is still parallel with differing" |
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