if you are egyptian and finished tofel ibt and passed share your experience?

[drmoh1800]

is there any Egyptian took exam last April
my name mohamed i am waiting exam result?
i didnt take tofel yet
i live in ny now
i am thinking to go to take tofel preparatian next month in egypt?
some of my friend advised me to take it in amid east and some tell me American university
it will be more easier if i got help
my friend told me here in america they dont know exactly our level in english beside it more expensive
more than in egypt
what do you think and what the best thing to do to pass this tofel ?
i know couple of egyptian they pass tofel
first he bring barrons and study alone he passed tofel after 5 time he advised me if you get help it would be easier
second he took preparation in american univesity in egypt and he passed it from first time
if you took tofel ibt and passed share your experience?

[sasaangelica]

I didn't take TOEFL yet either . WIll exam results in June be accepted ? It takes 15 working days ( 3 weeks ) for the results to reach NABP . I'm thinking to register for 12 June exam , will the result be accepted if I passed ?

[drmoh1800]

how did you prepare for tofel?
i dont know how its going for your situatian

[drmoh1800]

Effective April 1, 2010, the Test of English as a Foreign Language™ (TOEFL®) Internet-based Test (iBT) will be the sole English language proficiency examination accepted for new candidates seeking FPGEC Certification. Consequently, score reports from the paper-based TOEFL and the Test of Spoken English™(TSE®) will no longer be accepted for all new FPGEC candidates as of this date. Maintaining one standard for English proficiency – the TOEFL iBT – will further promote uniformity among all candidates seeking FPGEC Certification.

Also, beginning April 1, 2010, TOEFL iBT score reports from international Educational Testing Service® (ETS®) test site locations will no longer be accepted for new candidates seeking FPGEC Certification. TOEFL iBT score reports will only be accepted from ETS test centers located in NABP member and associate member jurisdictions including the 50 United States, District of Columbia, Guam, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, nine Canadian provinces, two Australian states, and New Zealand, as listed under District Composition.

To accommodate current candidates who were part of the FPGEC Certification program prior to April 1, 2010, and who may already be scheduled to take an English language proficiency examination, TOEFL and TSE score reports will be accepted until June 30, 2010. If a candidate is unable to pass the TOEFL and TSE by June 30, he or she will need to contact ETS and schedule to take the TOEFL iBT as the English language proficiency requirement. The FPGEC will also accept score reports from international ETS test site locations from current candidates until the June 30 deadline.

[sasaangelica]

I called NABP and they clarified they last date to sit for the exam outsied the USA is 30 june not thedate they get the results .

For my preparation , I took a few classes with a famous AUC tutor (about 4 classes) and I made some effort with Barron's ( 2weeeks) then I had to cut off my study for about a month . I think I'd concentrate for the coming 10 days and try my chance on the 13th of June . I can give it full time these days . How does that sound like ?

[PharmNerd]

I am Egyptian, currently in the US. Allah, SWT, has endowed me with passing the FPGEE with 132 and the TOEFL (S29, total 117). I need these high scores for very different career goals, so I needed to work hard and get every thing done in the best shape from the first time. And it was not that hard!!

The thing I find very disappointing about us in general is that we ALWAYS rely on getting "educated" by others even if we spent 5 years of hard work in the college of pharmacy. I saw people talking about "Dr Yasser's course". I do not know what that is, at any rate, it's a piece of crap that looks exactly like the very inappropriate (I am trying to be polite) "droos" people were taking when in pharmacy and medicine in Egyptian universities.

Guys, this FPGEC program is a life chance to know yourself and develop into a responsible professional. The key is to STRUGGLE in teaching yourself how to speak good English and how to be a knowledgeable professional, ie pharmacist. If you are the kind of person who relies on taking courses in the AUC, Amideast or the British Council to "pass" the TOEFL and take a course at "Dr Yasser's" to pass the FPGEE, you are just screwed. You will not become a responsible professional if you keep doing this thing that you have been doing since "thanaweya 3ammah", maybe before. Things here does not work this way. You really have to do YOUR best in assimilating information. Get the help YOU NEED from your colleagues, friends who have had a comparable experience. Have a clear goal why you wanna do all this and what's the best way to do it.

Remember, be realistic about what you are going to learn from those courses. The TOEFL course at the AUC is not gonna teach you how to speak English, and you do not know how many people have take it and they did not pass, you just know the very few who passed. Also, always relate cause and effect in a logical way, if somebody in Dr Yasser's course passed, this does not mean at all that everybody who took this course will pass. Maybe there are so many who took that course and did not pass. By the way, I do not have any conflict of interest with either Dr Yasser or any other entity.

Finally, always remember, if you wanna make the best use of this chance to have good English, do it yourself. If you wanna develop your pharmacy knowledge in a real way, do it yourself and do it appropriately.

Good luck

[DHOKNEAKASH]

Wow! That was a breathtaking! I appreciate your time to guide our way.

[Pharmaddict]

Out of a practical experience, I can say that a preparation course for the TOEFL definitely will not guarantee that you'll get the required scores. I didn't take TOEFL yet because of the new rules but I did take a preparation course at the Amideast. A 5 week preparation course will not help you if you don't work hard on yourself. I believe that TOEFL needs a lot of practice. At the same time, I don't see it a waste of time or money. It's not wrong to seek help from professionals if you need that. I needed someone to evaluate my performance in speaking and writing and that's why I took the course. The course will show you your points of weakness and you will have an exam at the end and you will be scored . This may reflect your score on a real exam. But REMEMBER that the key factor is working hard on yourself. If you're still in US, register for the TOEFL and collect materials (like Longman, Barron, Kaplan,...) and work on your own, it's worth trying.

About Dr. Yasser's course, I'm not for or against it, but I believe that it's not the magic stick that will help pass the FPGEE. We always try to take the easy way to get things done. I'd rather say what we believe to be the easy way. Things now are different, if we don't work on ourselves, we'll not make it. Dr. Yasser himself took the exam couple of years ago. I read a lot of threads for him on different forums seeking help from others like everyone in this forum. So, who said that he's better than anyone here!!

[IamPrincess]

I called NABP and they clarified they last date to sit for the exam outsied the USA is 30 june not thedate they get the results .

boo. i didn't know that. but i actually called nabp last april and asked them about that. (i must say, their customer service isn't really customer friendly,is it?. does anybody agree with me?) anyway, yeah, i called about the toefl and they told me that you have to finish the toefl before june 30. however i forgot to ask about the last day to sit for the exam outside the usa. of course i panicked and i scheduled mine on the 2nd week of may. i scheduled it 3 weeks before taking the fp. results were actually released 14-15 days ONLY. not 3 weeks. i was not able to review anything for toefl as i was very preoccupied with the fpgee, but thank goodness i passed the toefl! i am very happy with my scores. they're not 3 digit numbers, but still, i passed and that's what counts, right? if i were to suggest anything, just watch a lot of tv.

[Dr2009]

I am Egyptian, currently in the US. Allah, SWT, has endowed me with passing the FPGEE with 132 and the TOEFL (S29, total 117). I need these high scores for very different career goals, so I needed to work hard and get every thing done in the best shape from the first time. And it was not that hard!!

The thing I find very disappointing about us in general is that we ALWAYS rely on getting "educated" by others even if we spent 5 years of hard work in the college of pharmacy. I saw people talking about "Dr Yasser's course". I do not know what that is, at any rate, it's a piece of crap that looks exactly like the very inappropriate (I am trying to be polite) "droos" people were taking when in pharmacy and medicine in Egyptian universities.

Guys, this FPGEC program is a life chance to know yourself and develop into a responsible professional. The key is to STRUGGLE in teaching yourself how to speak good English and how to be a knowledgeable professional, ie pharmacist. If you are the kind of person who relies on taking courses in the AUC, Amideast or the British Council to "pass" the TOEFL and take a course at "Dr Yasser's" to pass the FPGEE, you are just screwed. You will not become a responsible professional if you keep doing this thing that you have been doing since "thanaweya 3ammah", maybe before. Things here does not work this way. You really have to do YOUR best in assimilating information. Get the help YOU NEED from your colleagues, friends who have had a comparable experience. Have a clear goal why you wanna do all this and what's the best way to do it.

Remember, be realistic about what you are going to learn from those courses. The TOEFL course at the AUC is not gonna teach you how to speak English, and you do not know how many people have take it and they did not pass, you just know the very few who passed. Also, always relate cause and effect in a logical way, if somebody in Dr Yasser's course passed, this does not mean at all that everybody who took this course will pass. Maybe there are so many who took that course and did not pass. By the way, I do not have any conflict of interest with either Dr Yasser or any other entity.

Finally, always remember, if you wanna make the best use of this chance to have good English, do it yourself. If you wanna develop your pharmacy knowledge in a real way, do it yourself and do it appropriately.

Good luck

I agree with you PharmNerd, actually we Egyptians learned to run for the easiest solutions, by the way I cleared FPGEE 2010 with 130 (without any professional help)
how long did it take you to prepare for IBT ? did you pass it from the first time ?
thanks