silvergator Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Is M not equal to N? 1. M+N 2. MN OA is B 1. M 2. MN I chose D. Why wrong? on #1?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 m + n - both m and n are negative, then m can be either equal or not equal with n. For ex, m = n = -5 or m = -4, n = -3. Both cases meet m + n - m 0 or vice versa => m and n cannot be equal For ex: m = -5, n = 4 or m = 2, n = -8 since we cannot know whether m = n => 1 is insuf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvergator Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 Mav, I subtracted n from both sides of the equation to get m Thanks for any additional information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnabd Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Mav is right - I will go for B Silvergator , in case if inequality subtracting same value many times change the direction of in equality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted November 28, 2005 Share Posted November 28, 2005 Mav, I subtracted n from both sides of the equation to get m I am afraid this approach is wrong. for ex: m = n = -5 we also get m That's why if we only have m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvergator Posted November 28, 2005 Author Share Posted November 28, 2005 So what exactly is the rule then of when I can and when I can't add, subtract, divide or multiply with an inequality? For instance, if I have m/n>1, can I say that m>n by multiplying both sides by n? Another example, if I have a-b+c > a+b-c, I can simplify to b>c. So why in this case can I not simplify the term???????? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav Posted November 29, 2005 Share Posted November 29, 2005 So what exactly is the rule then of when I can and when I can't add, subtract, divide or multiply with an inequality? For instance, if I have m/n>1, can I say that m>n by multiplying both sides by n? Another example, if I have a-b+c > a+b-c, I can simplify to b>c. So why in this case can I not simplify the term? Thanks Silver, I think you are more familiar with equation, rite. We all know that in equation we can subtract, add to both sides of the equation freely. Also we can multiply, divide both side with the same number/expression (provided it is not zero). In inequality, it is similar when we add, subtract smth to/from both sides, the inequality is still valid. In your example, we can netoff a a - b + c > a + b -c -b + c > b - c (subtract a from both side) -2b > -2c b you have to be very careful with positive and negative sign when dealing with equation and inequality. Whenever a number/expression is moved from one side to the other, it's negative/positive sign will be changed to the other. For ex: m > n m - n > 0 In inequality, if we multiply/divide two sides with positive number, we get new inequality with same direction: a > b (if c > 0) ac > bc and if we have ac > bc (if c > 0) we can get a > b (divide two sides by c) If we multiply/divide two sides with negative number, we get new inequality with opposite direction: a > b (if c ac ac > bc (c a Thus, in your example: m/n > 1 we cannot multiply two side with n to get m > n since we do not know n is positive or negative, so we have two circumstances: n > 0: m/n > 1 (m/n)*n > 1*n m > n (your approach) n 1 (m/n)*n m HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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