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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimas
    Q3: I recommend solving it geometrically. Much easier for linear absolute values.
    Yep, I would recommend this too! In fact I'd initially solved this problem using the graphing approach.
    I explained it differently here because I was too lazy to draw a graph.

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    Guys, I find this number line approach excellent for solving such problems.

    Thanks arjmen & dimas

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    Guys i tried to use the graph....
    Can you just plot a simple example and demonstrate how to plot it on the graph....

    I might sound silly...but just do this once..

    Thanks

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    Can some one elaborate a little more about this simple step..

    (x-4)(x-3) < 0
    Therefore, 3 < x < 4

    Logicaly its fine ... I understand that that 1 should be +ve and other -ve.. but is there a more mechanical way..to find x .... as it would be if for (x-4)(x-3) = 0.. x =3,4 ??

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    For question number 3: I have a confusion

    |x+8| < |x-3|

    Here are the four equations:

    Eq 1 => x+8 < x-3 (Cannot infer anything)

    Eq 2 =>
    x+8 < -(x-3)
    x+8 < -x+3
    2x < -5
    x < -5/2 (everyones answer)

    Eq 3 => -(x+8) < -(x+3) (Cannot infer anything)

    Eq 4 =>
    -(x+8) < x+3
    -x-8 < x+3
    -5<2x
    -5/2<x
    x>-5/2
    whats wrong with equation 4? Why is x>-5/2 not a solution?

    Update:
    I saw a similar problem discussed. I found from Graycellz explanation(below link) that for the second set of equations (in my case eqn 3,4) we should change sign. But I dont understand why.
    http://www.urch.com/forums/gmat-math...nequality.html (absolute value inequality)
    Last edited by garbage100; 05-06-2006 at 02:20 PM. Reason: Automerged post

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    G100,
    The best way of solving this problem, is t square both sides, then

    (x+8)^2<(x-3)^2
    => x^2+64+16x<x^2+9-6x
    => 22x<-55
    => x<-5/2(ANS)

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    Quote Originally Posted by garbage100
    Eq 4 =>
    -(x+8) < x+3
    -x-8 < x+3
    -5<2x
    -5/2<x
    x>-5/2
    whats wrong with equation 4? Why is x>-5/2 not a solution?
    The reason you can't write, -(x+8) < x-3 is that this is akin to saying that, x+8 < 0, but x-3 >= 0. This is not possible!

    If |x+8| < |x-3|, what are the boundary conditions you can scrutinise?

    1) x+8 > 0
    2) x+8 <= 0
    3) x-3 >= 0
    4) x-3 < 0

    1 and 2, I've looked at in my previous explanatory post. What I'll try to prove here is that we don't need to go any further.

    Looking at the 3rd BC: this is not posible given the absolute value inequation. For x-3 >=0 , we need x>0. But then, |x+8| > |x-3|

    Now, the 4th BC: If x-3 < 0, then for the original inequation to hold true, -(x-3) > x+8 OR -(x-3) > -(x+8)
    We've already looked at both of these before!

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    Thanks Arjmen. Thanks Manish.

    So it looks like we have to keenly watch the boundary conditions which we select while removing ||.

    Manish, your method looks simple....would it always work...(means i wouldnt have to worry about these boundary conditions then).

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    G100,
    if the Equation is in this form |x+8| < |x-3| means mod sign on both sides then u can use it.

    thanx

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    The squaring thing is a neat solution. I got caught by the boundary problems too.

    Thanks for the clarification guys.

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