shaq Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 City Planners in Detroit hope that the renewal project extending along the eastern riverfront will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space needed to attract new businesses. that lives and works downtown and also provides to live and work downtown and also provide that lives as well as works downtown and also provide which lives as well as works downtown and also provides who live as well as work downtown and also provides Can someone help me with this question:hmm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuM Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 .......hope that the renewal project......will establish ..... B is the only one seems correct to me (if i am getting the original meaning correctly). That lives, which lives, who live are incorrect usages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaq Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 City Planners in Detroit hope that the renewal project extending along the eastern riverfront will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space needed to attract new businesses. A. that lives and works downtown and also provides B. to live and work downtown and also provide C. that lives as well as works downtown and also provide D. which lives as well as works downtown and also provides E. who live as well as work downtown and also provides I think THAT and WHO are modifying population and therefore are acceptable usages. WHICH I dont think is correct in this case so eliminated D Since population is singular, I selected the verb form LIVES and WORKS thereby eliminating choices E and B. And from my understanding of the question the renewal project ...... will establish ..... and also provides Since project is singular I chose provides (Answer A), but the correct answer was C. renewal project ...... will establish ..... and also provide So I am confused......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwivedys Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 "a population that lives" seems perfectly fine to me. In B - "establish a population to live and work downtown.." suggests that the renewal project would establish the population TO LIVE, which doesn't seem very sensible. It would have been different had it been - "establish a population to BOTH live and work downtown". On the other hand "population that lives as well as works downtown" makes appropriate use of "as well as" to join "lives" and "works" without producing any awkwardness. I would vote for C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwivedys Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Choice A introduces a TENSE ISSUE. "the renewal project will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space ..." On the one hand it says - the renewal project WILL ESTABLISH (future tense) and on the other it says - and also PROVIDES (Present tense). This is incorrect. We need to use Provide to convey the idea that the event will happen at some point in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuM Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 How can a population provide "the office space needed to attract new businesses."? Don't you think the project would provide the same? I don't see any reason why C would be the answer ( lives...works... provide!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaq Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks dwivedys. I was thinking in singular/plural (she provides/they provide)terms when I should have been thinking in tense terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaq Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 To answer Sum's question, I think we should look at the statement like this renewal project ...... will establish [a population that lives and works downtown] and also provide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwivedys Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 How can a population provide "the office space needed to attract new businesses."? Don't you think the project would provide the same? I don't see any reason why C would be the answer ( lives...works... provide!). Sum - in my explanation I have mentioned project not population. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwivedys Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 How can a population provide "the office space needed to attract new businesses."? Don't you think the project would provide the same? I don't see any reason why C would be the answer ( lives...works... provide!). Sum - in my explanation I have mentioned project not population. Shaq - Yes, that's why it's a quite a bit of a juggling of concepts to contend with before you get to final answer. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuM Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 BTW what is the source of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaq Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 This is from an [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] edition from 2001-2002 period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuM Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks to both Dwivedys and shaq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishek_jha Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 City Planners in Detroit hope that the renewal project extending along the eastern riverfront will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space needed to attract new businesses. that lives and works downtown and also provides to live and work downtown and also provide that lives as well as works downtown and also provide which lives as well as works downtown and also provides who live as well as work downtown and also provides Can someone help me with this question:hmm: It can be solved quickly by POE: A. Incorrect : Seems to suggest that it is the population that provides the office space.. B. Incorrect : "to live" seems to be a verb for the project and sounds wrong. C. Correct : "will ... also provide" has a correct subject to verb agreement D. Incorrect : Seems to suggest that it is the population that provides the office space.. E. Incorrect: who..live is incorrect, also provide is not a correct subject verb agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice t Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 i still don't get how provide should be singular???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuM Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Read the following: City Planners in Detroit hope that the renewal project extending along the eastern riverfront will establish (a population that lives as well as works downtown) and {will} also provide the office space needed to attract new businesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishek_jha Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 i still don't get how provide should be singular???? The subject is "the renewal project" which is singular, so the verb should also be singular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riteshb Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 "The subject is "the renewal project" which is singular, so the verb should also be singular" Not necessarily... The company provides many services to its employees as part of an excellent benefits program. The question is a tense issue (a tricky question--I missed it when I read it). "will establish a population AND also provide...." not "will establish a population and also provides..." How about this: City Planners hope that the renewal project will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space. It actually sounds like the population will provide the office space. Great question, I would've missed this on the real test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishek_jha Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 "The subject is "the renewal project" which is singular, so the verb should also be singular" Not necessarily... The company provides many services to its employees as part of an excellent benefits program. The question is a tense issue (a tricky question--I missed it when I read it). "will establish a population AND also provide...." not "will establish a population and also provides..." How about this: City Planners hope that the renewal project will establish a population that lives and works downtown and also provides the office space. It actually sounds like the population will provide the office space. Great question, I would've missed this on the real test. And your point is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riteshb Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 My point is that your explanation isn't accurate for THIS particular sentence so I didn't want anyone to be confused. "The subject is "the renewal project" which is singular, so the verb should also be singular" My extended explanation was for ice t, not you abhishek_jha; ice t was asking why the correct answer doesn't work with rule. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishek_jha Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Here the verb is singular and by implication, the tense is future, hence the usage of provide. Why would you say "Not necessarily..." for a sentence to be correct, there always has to be a subject verb consonance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmatguy Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 yeah even i don get it if we talking abt project which is singular... its shld be provides !! Please explain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asd123 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 when hope/desire is used to express and followed by modifer that.. ...the rule is to use a 'to be' verb and that is why the verb provide ( to- be verb) is acceptable This is explained well in kaplan gmat 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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