MingBee Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Chicago, where industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than any other American city, was plauged by labour troubles like the Pullman Strikes of 1894. A) where industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than any other American city B) which had industrial growth in the nineteenth century more rapid than that of other American cities C) which had growth industurally more rapid than any other American city in the ninteenth century D) whose industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than any other American city E) whose industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than of any other American city Please explain your POE. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaragorn Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 my answer is A. 'Whose' is a possesive form of who and which. And therefore is generally used with animate antecedents like say a person or a group. But there are also instances where it is used with inanimate antecedents like the way its mentioned in the above example, but such instances are rare and they produce a stilted sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbharti Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 my answer is A. 'Whose' is a possesive form of who and which. And therefore is generally used with animate antecedents like say a person or a group. But there are also instances where it is used with inanimate antecedents like the way its mentioned in the above example, but such instances are rare and they produce a stilted sentence. Yes Aarogorn is right... Just to add a little bit more from Bartleby: whose. You can use whose as a possessive to refer to both animate and inanimate nouns. Thus you can say Crick, whose theories still influence work in laboratories around the world or Crick’s theories, whose influence continues to be felt in laboratories around the world. With inanimate nouns you can also use of which as an alternative, as in Crick’s theories, the influence of which continues to be felt in laboratories around the world. But as this example demonstrates, substituting of which for whose is sometimes cumbersome Edited: Aaragorn is right in terms of his explanation :-) In terms of answer, i concur all: answer should be E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekybiz1 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I would go with E. Here's my reasoning: A and D: compares industrial growth with other American cities B and C: "which" is incorrect I agree that "whose" is more cumbersome - but I beleive that often GMAT options come with more than one issues, so when you are not sure about things like which/ whose, its a good idea to look for other problems..! Though, I equally agree that its imp here to get a clear idea about which/ whose and I agree to dbharti's explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shud Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Thanks for information guys. But A doesn't seem to have parallel comparison A says - chicago's industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than any other American city. Same problem in C and D. B say - than of other cities instead of any other cities- impossible situation. Only E seems to be correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800Bob Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Something's wrong here. All choices are wrong. Most other choices have comparison problems. A: says that Chicago's growth was "more rapid than any other American city." Needs to be "more rapid than that of any other American city." B: "had industrial growth... more rapid than that of other American cities." Here "that of" makes no sense. If you're going to start the comparison with "had," you need to finish with a verb, as in "than other American cities had." C: Adverb "industrially" in "had growth industrially more rapid" seems to modify "more rapid" instead of "had growth." D: like A, needs "that of." E: Maybe this is supposed to be the correct answer and it's just mistyped. I see "of" where I want to see "that of." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopra Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 IMO E A,C & D have comparison problem. Comparison should be between chicago and any other american city and not between industrial growth and any other american city. Following comparison is not correct: industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than any other American city. B is awkward. E correctly compares chicago with other cities by using preposition of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitg_ind Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Something's wrong here. All choices are wrong. Most other choices have comparison problems. A: says that Chicago's growth was "more rapid than any other American city." Needs to be "more rapid than that of any other American city." B: "had industrial growth... more rapid than that of other American cities." Here "that of" makes no sense. If you're going to start the comparison with "had," you need to finish with a verb, as in "than other American cities had." C: Adverb "industrially" in "had growth industrially more rapid" seems to modify "more rapid" instead of "had growth." D: like A, needs "that of." E: Maybe this is supposed to be the correct answer and it's just mistyped. I see "of" where I want to see "that of." Bob, in option B, why didn't 'that of' make any sense? I mean, if remove it then wouldn't the comparision be wrongly comparing 'growth' with 'other american cities'? I am confused. We can eliminate B on the basis of parallelism - 'had...had' but 'that of' in B sounds correct to me. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekybiz1 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 amit, As per my understanding, Bob says that since we use "had industrial growth", we need "other American cities had" to keep the parallelism in option B. This is different from E, which is of the form "who industrial growth was..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800Bob Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Bob, in option B, why didn't 'that of' make any sense? I mean, if remove it then wouldn't the comparision be wrongly comparing 'growth' with 'other american cities'? I am confused. We can eliminate B on the basis of parallelism - 'had...had' but 'that of' in B sounds correct to me. :(You can say either: which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities had or: whose industrial growth was more rapid than that of other American cities But B confuses the two. "That of other American cities" needs to be compared with some sort of possessive form, such as "the industrial growth of which" or "whose industrial growth." Maybe an analogous but simpler example will help. You can say either: The area of Russia is greater than that of India. or: Russia has a greater area than India has. But it's imprecise to say: Russia has a greater area than that of India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingBee Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 Sorry I made a typo on Answer E, 800Bob is right. So Answer E is E) whose industrial growth in the nineteenth century was more rapid than that of any other American city. and the OA is E Thank you guys for your valuable opinions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatit Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Thanks 800bob. Very clearly explained. cbttl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinghal1 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Something's wrong here. All choices are wrong. Most other choices have comparison problems. A: says that Chicago's growth was "more rapid than any other American city." Needs to be "more rapid than that of any other American city." B: "had industrial growth... more rapid than that of other American cities." Here "that of" makes no sense. If you're going to start the comparison with "had," you need to finish with a verb, as in "than other American cities had." C: Adverb "industrially" in "had growth industrially more rapid" seems to modify "more rapid" instead of "had growth." D: like A, needs "that of." E: Maybe this is supposed to be the correct answer and it's just mistyped. I see "of" where I want to see "that of." Bob, Can you please clarify on one small thing - how does one decide whether to add/not add extra words to maintain full parallelism. For example, in the explaination above, you rejected a because it does't it "more rapid than that of any other American city." However, by the same logic, are both of the following incorrect because I have often seen them as accepted usage. My bank balance is higher than anyone in my neighbourhood [...has] I have more money than most people [...do] Please help - i've tried to read up everywhere but couldnt get the answer to this. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edyoon81 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 You can say either: which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities had or: whose industrial growth was more rapid than that of other American cities But B confuses the two. "That of other American cities" needs to be compared with some sort of possessive form, such as "the industrial growth of which" or "whose industrial growth." Maybe an analogous but simpler example will help. You can say either: The area of Russia is greater than that of India. or: Russia has a greater area than India has. But it's imprecise to say: Russia has a greater area than that of India. Hi 800Bob I have one question on comparision The following quote is what I found from something called Spidey's note Look at the following examples for something (perhaps) new: Megumi has visited more countries than I have. We can use have again because have is an auxiliary verb here. Megumi has more skirts than I do. Here, has is NOT an auxiliary verb, and in SAE, we cannot use the verb have in the second bit. I was just curious how which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities had falls under an exception case. I was under the impression from Spidey's note that the comparison should be as following which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities did Please let me know the correct way to understand comparison. Tks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
800Bob Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I was just curious how which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities had falls under an exception case. I was under the impression from Spidey's note that the comparison should be as following which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities did Please let me know the correct way to understand comparison. Tks in advance. Well, Spidey is not quite right. With the nonauxiliary "have/has/had", you have a choice. You may replace with "do/does/did", but you are not required to do so. The same is true with other verbs. John eats more meat than Paul eats. John eats more meat than Paul does. Both are correct. You may replace "eats" with "does", but you are not required to do so. Likewise: ...which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities had ...which had industrial growth more rapid than other American cities did Both are correct. You have the option. However, when "have/has/had" is an aulixiary verb, you do not have the same option. You do have a choice to repeat or not repeat the past participle, but you cannot change "have/has/had" to "do/does/did": John has always eaten more meat than Paul has eaten. John has always eaten more meat than Paul has. (correct) John has always eaten more meat than Paul does. (incorrect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edyoon81 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hi 800Bob Thanks a lot for this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgs Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I agree with E. Thx Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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