infinityzero Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 n and p are integers greater than 1 5n is the square of a number 75np is the cube of a number. The smallest value for n + p is A. 14 B. 18 C. 20 D. 30 E. 50 Ans:A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybernike Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 5n= the square of a number it is not difficult to see n=5. 75*n*p =75*5*p =3*5*5*5*p =3*p*5^3=the cube of a number. In order to get a cube, all the prime components (i.e. 3 and 5 here) have to be to the 3rd power. Therefore, the smallest number for p is 3^2 =9. Therefore, n+p= 5 +9 =14 (A). n and p are integers greater than 1 5n is the square of a number 75np is the cube of a number. The smallest value for n + p is A. 14 B. 18 C. 20 D. 30 E. 50 Ans:A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinityzero Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 "5n= the square of a number it is not difficult to see n=5." How does n = 5??? I did 5n = x^2 and 75np = x^3, where x is "a number". I divided 75np by 5n to get 15p, and 15p = x: (75np/5n) = (x^3/x^2) --> 15p = x Since x represents a number (and not an actual variable in this problem), I said that 15 = p/x or 15 = p. Then 75*(15)*n = 5*5*3*5*3*n p = 9 and I would have to solve for n. I don't understand how n=5 automatically here though. Can someone explain? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronique Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 "5n= the square of a number it is not difficult to see n=5." How does n = 5?? n is five here because we need to find the smallest vaule of n+p this is possible only when both n & p are min. obviously for 5n to be a square we can have many values on n...namely 5, 20,80 etc. but we are interested in the smallest value of n. Hence n=5. I did 5n = x^2 and 75np = x^3, where x is "a number". I divided 75np by 5n to get 15p, and 15p = x: (75np/5n) = (x^3/x^2) --> 15p = x The highlighted part is wrong infinity, because by that statement,you are assuming that 5n is the square of x while 75np is the cube of the same no. x !! (This need'nt be always the case.You are considering a very special case.) Thinking more generally, as cybernike pointed out n=5. Now we have to find out the smallest value of p. as cybernike says , again.. 75*n*p =75*5*p =3*5*5*5*p =3*p*5^3=the cube of a number. In order to get a cube, all the prime components (i.e. 3 and 5 here) have to be to the 3rd power. Therefore, the smallest number for p is 3^2 =9. now from this, only if p=9,73, etc can the no. 3*p*(5^3) be the cube of any possible no. Again the lowest allowed value of p as we see is 9. Hence n =5 & p=9. so the smallest value of n+p = 14. Hope this is clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinityzero Posted December 31, 2005 Author Share Posted December 31, 2005 Yes, ok. I understand. I was writing things out in an equation format, hoping to solve for n or p. But it seems that is not the case for this problem and 5n and 75np must be taken by themselves alone and not combine together to solve for n or p, which is what I thought was to be done (and am familiar with). Well, thank you both :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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