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## smallest value?

n and p are integers greater than 1
5n is the square of a number
75np is the cube of a number.
The smallest value for n + p is
A. 14
B. 18
C. 20
D. 30
E. 50

Ans:A

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5n= the square of a number
it is not difficult to see n=5.

75*n*p
=75*5*p
=3*5*5*5*p
=3*p*5^3=the cube of a number.
In order to get a cube, all the prime components (i.e. 3 and 5 here) have to be to the 3rd power. Therefore, the smallest number for p is 3^2 =9.

Therefore, n+p= 5 +9 =14 (A).

Originally Posted by infinityzero
n and p are integers greater than 1
5n is the square of a number
75np is the cube of a number.
The smallest value for n + p is
A. 14
B. 18
C. 20
D. 30
E. 50

Ans:A

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"5n= the square of a number
it is not difficult to see n=5."

How does n = 5???

I did 5n = x^2 and 75np = x^3, where x is "a number". I divided 75np by 5n to get 15p, and 15p = x:

(75np/5n) = (x^3/x^2) --> 15p = x

Since x represents a number (and not an actual variable in this problem), I said that 15 = p/x or 15 = p.

Then 75*(15)*n = 5*5*3*5*3*n
p = 9 and I would have to solve for n.

I don't understand how n=5 automatically here though. Can someone explain? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by infinity
"5n= the square of a number
it is not difficult to see n=5."

How does n = 5??
n is five here because we need to find the smallest vaule of n+p this is possible only when both n & p are min.
obviously for 5n to be a square we can have many values on n...namely 5, 20,80 etc.
but we are interested in the smallest value of n. Hence n=5.

I did 5n = x^2 and 75np = x^3, where x is "a number". I divided 75np by 5n to get 15p, and 15p = x:

(75np/5n) = (x^3/x^2) --> 15p = x
The highlighted part is wrong infinity, because by that statement,you are assuming that 5n is the square of x while 75np is the cube of the same no. x !!
(This need'nt be always the case.You are considering a very special case.)
Thinking more generally, as cybernike pointed out n=5.
Now we have to find out the smallest value of p.
as cybernike says , again..

75*n*p
=75*5*p
=3*5*5*5*p
=3*p*5^3=the cube of a number.
In order to get a cube, all the prime components (i.e. 3 and 5 here) have to be to the 3rd power. Therefore, the smallest number for p is 3^2 =9.
now from this, only if p=9,73, etc can the no. 3*p*(5^3) be the cube of any possible no.

Again the lowest allowed value of p as we see is 9. Hence n =5 & p=9. so the smallest value of n+p = 14.

Hope this is clear.

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Yes, ok. I understand. I was writing things out in an equation format, hoping to solve for n or p. But it seems that is not the case for this problem and 5n and 75np must be taken by themselves alone and not combine together to solve for n or p, which is what I thought was to be done (and am familiar with).

Well, thank you both