From 620 to 740: My Story :)

[star_321]

Originally Posted by FiF for GMAT

Looks like you are smart with people. But my surroundings are not mellow. I am a son of a businessman who is mercurial and short-tempered. And, he understands one thing that is business. He made a good businessman out of me but I have a certain streak of temper in me which spins out of control sometimes. To calm myself down, I dream of a utopian world by listening to 'Soulful' songs. Ha! Hope it helps for GMAT.

Thank you for your advice, it was pertinent. In your last response to Hardikrs you mentioned that the approach towards solving OG problems should be less towards gauging the accuracy and more towards examining ways of applying the concept. I understand. But, then materials for practice are very less in GMAT. Can you please explain it by using an example of any section of GMAT right from concept to practice to real-time successful application? The approach towards the section and which materials should be used at which stage?

Let me know about any other holistic advice. And, by the way, I am not able to access my private messages. Could you tell me why?

Good luck for your applications.

Hey Fif For GMAT.

Hmm about your first para. I am not sure what made you write that but just want to say that if any of my sentence made you feel bad then I apologize for that. Its good that you have good background. You would be surprise to hear that my parents even don't know what GMAT is and what does this score means.

Anyways, you asked for a partical example of how OG can be used to learn concepts that can be used in actual SC problem.
Consider OG10 example 205.
In explaination the author mentions below sentences: "
Choice E uses the correct verb form, is, but it incorrectly introduces a dependent
adverbial although clause into a prepositional phrase (with crests ...). Choice D also makes this error. Such
dependent clauses can only occur in the predicates of full clauses. C, the best choice, uses the correct verb form,
is, and correctly puts the although clause inside the predicate of the relative clause (that... rapidly)."
There are many concepts one can learn here and apply in other real time problems.
For example from above we come to know that a depedent clause cannot be used in a prepositional phrase. It has to be used in the predicate of the sentece. If you know this concept and you find any example in actual test where this rule is not respected then you can straight away eliminate that option.
Smae way consider OG10 example 260
The author mentions:
"
The adverbial so that can modify verbs (e.g., decreased) but not
nouns (e.g., the decrease)."
We learn something here too.
So from each example in OG10 and OG11 you will learn some or other concept which you have t oapply in your test.
Lets me know if you have any other queries.

[star_321]

Originally Posted by nk5514

Hey Star awsome score, congrats and even awsome debrief. Thanks for that
It surely is one great achievement.

Two things i want to ask,

1. When you said you went through basic grammer books, Wren and Martin, what exactly you went through that? Did you read all the book? or just did selected topics. Also did you solve all the exercises at the end of each topic? (This is problem, because Wren and Martin doesnt provide the correct answers for excercises). Just want to know, because I feel i am also in same boat.
2. Your enips folder cannot be downloaded. I guess when you try to share, share that with public.

Thanks again. hoping to repeat your magic!

Thank you NK5514.

Regarding your questions:
1. As i mentioned in my debrief that I didn't had a good idea about all gramatical concepts. I new what is noun, adverb and adjective little well. But Iwas not aware aobout rule around verb, conjunction, preposition etc.
In this basic boks I fine tuned my htis concepts. Concepts such as Participle, Gerund, infinitive, subject, object, predicate, phrase, clause, types of sentences, mood of sentences etc. I never completed the book. But i brushed up this concepts and during my studies whenever I came across new grammatical connotation used by othe members I went to the books to understand the meaning. When I use to not get good understanding I use google it and find better explanation.

2. The folder is a shared folder to public. I am not sure why people are not able t oget there.
Pleae PM me your email ID and I will send a invite to it so that you can directly access it .

[star_321]

Originally Posted by ramiy

Hi star , i cant acces your esnsips. link can you please check that and re-post the same
Thanks

Ramily I dont know how to get a comman link to access that folder.
I tried pasting it but when i click it from here it doesn't take me there.
Please PM me so that I can send you invite to get the files.

[star_321]

Originally Posted by galandekapil

star321, yaar u rock .. You know what, when reading thy blog I felt as if I am reading my own thoughts .. What ever you wrote about thy 1st attempt, almost 95% was true for me.... And my score was very close to you .. My IT carrier, my schedule ..amost everything ..After GMAT I tried all other exams and I almost broke down .. But after reading thy blog, now I am up with new energy .. Thanks a lot yaar ..

Thanks a lot Kapil.

I took hours to write that only to help people like you.
I am glad it was useful to you and you good some motivation from it.

All the Best.

[timepasskapil1984]

Congartulations star 321. looks like hardwork pays off ..
And thanks for all the suggestions .. It has given me some direction to start with ..
But I have coouple of questions :
1) When I searched for SC 1000 on esnsips., I got some PDF with footer as Scoretop.com. Is that the one you were reffereing ? And I just got the key but not the explanation of that...
2) What to do for reading comprehension ? For SC and critical reasoning i think I got enough of things to start with ..
3) I am planning to start with Wren and Martin .. Do you think its a good start ?
4) Are OG10 and OG11 very different ? I have book of OG11 but if OG10 is very different then I wll look for it as well .

[dreamzndreamz]

Hi star

CONGRATULATIONS



that was really a good debrief. It is very useful information for those who are starting their preparation. Even me is in the same roaster. I am planning to write GMAT in July.
can u please post an another thread saying where all the material like Spidy notes,Adhmajons note, 1000SC and 1000CR are available.

I am very new to this forum(i just registered now to reply to your message).I am just looking for information about GMAT. But your mail inspired me a lot.Really i can't stop apreciating you. I will go through tatum,tbay,kill gmat and all others debriefs to increase my zeal and confidence.

Good luck....

[star_321]

Originally Posted by timepasskapil1984

Congartulations star 321. looks like hardwork pays off ..
And thanks for all the suggestions .. It has given me some direction to start with ..
But I have coouple of questions :
1) When I searched for SC 1000 on esnsips., I got some PDF with footer as Scoretop.com. Is that the one you were reffereing ? And I just got the key but not the explanation of that...
2) What to do for reading comprehension ? For SC and critical reasoning i think I got enough of things to start with ..
3) I am planning to start with Wren and Martin .. Do you think its a good start ?
4) Are OG10 and OG11 very different ? I have book of OG11 but if OG10 is very different then I wll look for it as well .

Thank you kapil.
1. Yes i guess you got the correct document.
2. For reading comprehension I only did OG10 and OG11. I relied on critical reasoning preparation to do reading comprehension. I just made sure what needs to be taken care of while doing reading comprehension. I have mentioned that in my Debrief.
3. Hmmm, this is little tricky. Start with Wren and martin only if your basics are bad. But if you feel they are good then you can do Manhattan Sentence Correction book. And Later in preparation you can use Kaplan 800 for more difficult problems.
4. Yes OG10 and OG11 are different. OG11 contians good explaination for SC problems but Ifound math good in OG10. Even the verbal section is good in OG10. So do try to get OG10 also. I guess yu will get that on esnsips..

[star_321]

Originally Posted by dreamzndreamz

Hi star

CONGRATULATIONS



that was really a good debrief. It is very useful information for those who are starting their preparation. Even me is in the same roaster. I am planning to write GMAT in July.
can u please post an another thread saying where all the material like Spidy notes,Adhmajons note, 1000SC and 1000CR are available.

I am very new to this forum(i just registered now to reply to your message).I am just looking for information about GMAT. But your mail inspired me a lot.Really i can't stop apreciating you. I will go through tatum,tbay,kill gmat and all others debriefs to increase my zeal and confidence.

Good luck....

Thank you bro.
You will find all these note in debrief of TBay.
Even if you search on esnsips. you should get these documents.
All the best...

[star_321]

I got my Official Score Today.
Scored 5.5 in AWA.....

[effective_factor]

Originally Posted by star_321

I got my Official Score Today.
Scored 5.5 in AWA.....

congrats once again