LSAT anyone?

[Erin]

Okay, I found the link I saw a few months ago:

http://www.powerscore.com/

Although it seems that this company is no longer associated with Robin Singh, so perhaps it's not what it used to be. Anyway, as I said, I was reading about one of the books they have for sale, and at least from the copy, it seemed to be a good book.

However, I don't really know anything about this course or their materials. Just trying to pass along a tip that might help.

[tsdvj]

Hi Erin,

Thanks for the tip You are real helpful, thanks a ton For the first time I missed only 7 questions in the Games section -- some achievement hmm.... Let me see if I can do better

[Erin]

Can you tell which type of question you're missing? I think the "3-D" games are the hardest. The other ones are fairly straightforward, IMO.

[tsdvj]

The "Ordering games" are the ones which I tend to miss the most -- p>q t>u u>r etc.... I get somewhat lost in the sequence. I am somewhat better in the Grouping/Assignment.
I finished studying the strategies from Kaplan (I have a 1997 book, if I remember correctly) I have bookmarked some websites too - But I do not know if I will have enough time to review those -- the exam is on Saturday:o

By the way Erin, what do you mean by 3-D games? I haven't come across that term yet anywhere.......

[Erin]

3-D games are those that are essentially hard to draw because you can't draw them on 2-D paper. In level of difficulty, they are similar to those questions that require you to juggle information because it's hard to get them down on paper.

If you're having problems with ordering questions, try adding more information that can be applied by going one or two more steps. You could also try reversing the order. The bottom line is that you need to get as much info down as possible so that you can answer the questions accurately and quickly.

If you want, you can post some questions you're having a hard time with (in another forum, of course, and if this forum doesn't exist, I can create one), and try to show me how you're setting up the problem. Then we could look at it more closely.

[tsdvj]

Erin, I found out that part of my problem is that I don't carry the rules far enough -- I make some obvious deductions but tend not to notice the 'deeper' deductions.

Here is one I am not getting :

Exactly 8 consumers -- F,G,H,J,K,L,M and N will be interviewed by market researchers. The 8 will be divided into exactly two 4 person groups -- group 1 and 2 -- before the interviews begin. Each person is assigned to exactly one of the two groups according to the following conditions:

F must be in the same group as J
G must be in a different group from M
If H is in group 1, then L must be in group 1
If N is in group 2, then G must be in group 1.


Ques : If K is in the same group as N, which one of the following MUST be true?

1. G is in group 1
2. H is in group 2
3. J is in group 1
4. K is in group 2
5. M is in group 1.

The correct choice given is 3.

I am not able to rule out the following possibility:

group1 - KNGL group2 - HFJM

In the above case, J is not in group 1

With the LSAT on Saturday, I have a long way to go!!! [xx(] [xx(]

[Erin]

Okay, I'm going to work on this one now. First, I think you're confusing "must" with "could." There will be many possibilities that we cannot rule out.

Back in a minute!

[Erin]

I keep getting answer choice #2:

K and N go together, leaving two spaces in whatever group they're in. One of the two remaining spaces is for G or M, leaving one space open. If H goes to Group 1, it will bring L with it, but since there's only one space available, it cannot go to Group 1, it must go to Group 2.

I looked at your work, and that's what I also came up with.

What is the source of this question?

[tsdvj]

Erin, the source is the 10 Actual, Official LSAT Preptests book by LSAC

[Erin]

Okay, let me look again... Back in a sec...