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Old 2003 February 4th, 09:19 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Okay, let's see if #3 is indeed correct. Let's put J in Group 2:

Group 1: G/M _ _ _
Group 2: J G/M _ _

J and F must be together:

Group 1: G/M _ _ _
Group 2: J F G/M _

K and N must be together, and there's only one space left in Group 2, so they must go in Group 1:

Group 1: K N G/M _
Group 2: J F G/M _

If H is in Group 1, L must be, too, and there's only one spot left in Group 1, so H must go in Group 2:

Group 1: K N G/M _
Group 2: J F H G/M

There's only one spot left for L in Group 1:

Group 1: K N L G/M
Group 2: J F H G/M

So, if J is in Group 2, we have two results:

Group 1: K N L G
Group 2: J F H M


or

Group 1: K N L M
Group 2: J F H G


So J can go into Group 2. Again, I'm getting answer choice #2.

Can you please check your answer? Also, what page # is this question on, and what is the test administration date?
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Old 2003 February 4th, 09:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Erin -- I am very,very sorry........... the answer is indeed 2 -- there are so many tests and keys that I got mixed up.The problem is in Preptest XIII - Section 1, Question 2. Again, sorry for wasting your time ...
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Old 2003 February 4th, 09:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Hehehe, not a waste of my time! I haven't done these in a long time, so it's good to stay in practice!

Don't you feel better now?
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Old 2003 February 5th, 01:23 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Indeed Erin, I feel somewhat better -- I tackled some games and now I feel I understand the key element -- finding all cases that are rejected by the conditions. Hope my score improves now
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Old 2003 February 10th, 02:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Erin,

I took my LSAT on Feb 8. I was comfortable with reading comprehension and critical reasoning, but I could satisfactorily cover only 2 out of the 4 problems in Games. I have got some questions in the other 2 and guessed on the others. There were only 22 questions (normal expected is a 24 atleast). I am not very happy with the Games performance. I will let you know my scores.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I think whatever practice I had did help with my games. I should have just put in more time (which I did not [V] ) Thanks for all your help.
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Old 2003 March 3rd, 02:38 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Hi Erin,

I got a 162 on the LSAT. Can you comment on this score?

Again, thanks for the efforts to help me with Logical Games.

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Old 2003 March 7th, 01:28 AM   #27 (permalink)
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That's a great score! Should put you in roughly the top 10%, right?

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I have not received my official score, so I don't know my exact percentile -- I guess it should be in the top 10. I am yet to check out which schools I can get in.

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Lightbulb 8 consumers problem.

TSDVJ's 8 consumer problem.

Setup:
F...J
K...N
~G...M
H=1 --> L=1 therefore L=2 --> H=2
N=2 --> G=1 therefore G=2 --> N=1

To test answer 1 put G in group 2.
MNKL GFJH works
So answer 1 doesn't have to be true.

For answer 2 put H in group 1.
HLKN FJGM doesn't work.
HLGJ KNMF doesn't work.
HLMJ KNGF doesn't work.
HL _ _ KN _ _ doesn't work.
Answer 2 is correct- H must be in group 2.

For answer 3 put J in group 2.
KNML JFGH works.

For answer 4 put K in group 1.
KNML JFGH works.

For Answer 5 put M in group 2.
GKNL MFJH works.

Answer 2 is correct.


TSDVJ, your example "group1 - KNGL group2 - HFJM" works too and disproves Choice 3. It is ok that you posted it, the practice is good.
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Hi Tsdvj,

I'm planning on taking the test on february as well and when I first started studying for the logic game, I was only able to answer 12 questions in 35 min and most of the answers were wrong. I managed to improve however I'm still having problems with the hybrid games. I am looking for a study partner but but is hard to find. What do you recommend?
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