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Orwa · 2009 June 21st, 09:00 PM

I finished the FPGEE exam last Dec (118 , first try). I tried the TOEFL 4 times but I could not make it in the speaking section. I usually get 29 in reading, 29 in listening, 25 in writing and 22 in speaking.

I am so surprised how many people passed the TOEFL from the first time. I tried all the strategies in all the books, but non of them worked for me.

I want to know if I can get my FPGEE certificate in any state.

I checked Massachusetts, they dont ask for FPGEE certificate, but there is only one catch: they need SSN which I do not have.

I checked Michigan, they ask for FPGEE certificate.

I need your advice about my situation, your help will be greatly appreciated.

planner · 2009 June 22nd, 01:06 AM

What i would advice you is not to despair. I did the test like five times and did not get anything beyond 24 on the speaking section. Then i came accross a thread with the advice that you could rescore this section and with luck.....i had the luck and my score changed to 26. I was about to give up having done it 5 times(all those times my score was 24 and 23 in speaking). My advice is that you can book another test while you rescore the one clsest to 26 on the speaking section. Another advice is to just relax and dont be tense(i tried without success) while doing the speaking section.
Keep in touch Orwa and though i have not received my FPGEC we could help one another as we move ahead. thanks and good luck.

lannoush2009 · 2009 June 22nd, 04:18 AM

hi planner...hi orwa...i have the same problem...i passed my fpgee exam first time thank god..i thought the most difficult part was over..but the toefl ibt speaking section is more difficult than the fpgee!!yesterday i read we can rescore it..i went and faxed them the recore form!!i hope they do accept it..my question is can i work before taking the fpgee certificate in a pharmacy?i cannot just keep on waiting for the speaking score..i believe i have to practice speaking?!?!i even started thinking of doing masters bec it seemed much easier than speaking section!i live in mi...any advice?

pharmatiffany · 2009 June 22nd, 06:56 AM

Personally, I took the toefl ibt 11 times ! Finally I passed the TSE that i took in march this year, and I was really relieved. I would really suggest that you try to register for the next TSE and TOEFL because it's much easier. Me too, I used to get 29- 30 in reading, listening and writing, but I couldn't get more than 24 in speaking with rescoring.
I also advise you to rescore every test you do because I always had a better score when I had rescored it.
Good luck and think about the TSE.

lannoush2009 · 2009 June 22nd, 03:24 PM

there's no seats available in the united states for TSE ...what should i do?

essay899 · 2009 June 22nd, 05:01 PM

Do not give up on your Toefl Ibt. Do you know the website of Jason Renshaw on Voxopop? You can join the lessons with Jason and you will be able to pass it. I took the toefl multiple times, I already stop counting so I can't tell you how many times I took it. I bought all toefl books that you could imagine. However toefl is not just about speaking english, it is about organization and spontaneity. You need to check his website.[ TOEFL Speaking Mentor ] Renshaw Internet School of English
Good Luck!

planner · 2009 June 22nd, 07:49 PM

Lannoush keep on trying. Like i told you earlier rescoring might work for you because it did for me. In Ma, they do not need your FPGEC to start internship(though am there and not started yet). Its an option in the near future but my advice still stands. There are some sample answers on youtube...just type ouliogroove and you will get many sample questions with answers. This might also help with your speaking section. Good luck.

lannoush2009 · 2009 June 23rd, 12:39 AM

thank u planner and essay899...i will start looking for internship here in mi...and will try the next toefl ibt..i sent to rescore my scores ..crossing my fingers to get 3 more points..thank you..Bow wow wow yippee yo yippee yay!!!!11 advice from u guys bec we need someone to talk positvely to us bec these exams r done on our own..i mean it's not a college or uni were u gather and talk..so when u r on your own sometimes u feel it just u having all this trouble and that something is wrong with you..thank u again

lannoush2009 · 2009 June 23rd, 02:31 AM

i just checked the you tube..very helpful..thank u planner

pharmatiffany · 2009 June 23rd, 03:10 AM

Hi, me too I thought that there were no seats avaliable in the US for the TSE when i looked online, until someone told me that ETS opened seats in los angeles for the TSE, but they don't want to do too much publicity about it because they prefer people to take the TOEFL iBT.
Don't take the website into consideration because information about available seats is not right, go download a registration form in the TSE and TOEFL bulletin, and send them directly by mail to ETS. Ask for the X328 center (IKN in Los Angeles), I'm sure you'll find a place.

2009 June 21st, 09:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Orwa Within my grasp! Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 196	FPGEE Certificate I finished the FPGEE exam last Dec (118 , first try). I tried the TOEFL 4 times but I could not make it in the speaking section. I usually get 29 in reading, 29 in listening, 25 in writing and 22 in speaking. I am so surprised how many people passed the TOEFL from the first time. I tried all the strategies in all the books, but non of them worked for me. I want to know if I can get my FPGEE certificate in any state. I checked Massachusetts, they dont ask for FPGEE certificate, but there is only one catch: they need SSN which I do not have. I checked Michigan, they ask for FPGEE certificate. I need your advice about my situation, your help will be greatly appreciated.

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2009 June 22nd, 01:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
planner GODS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT. Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 12	What i would advice you is not to despair. I did the test like five times and did not get anything beyond 24 on the speaking section. Then i came accross a thread with the advice that you could rescore this section and with luck.....i had the luck and my score changed to 26. I was about to give up having done it 5 times(all those times my score was 24 and 23 in speaking). My advice is that you can book another test while you rescore the one clsest to 26 on the speaking section. Another advice is to just relax and dont be tense(i tried without success) while doing the speaking section. Keep in touch Orwa and though i have not received my FPGEC we could help one another as we move ahead. thanks and good luck.

2009 June 22nd, 04:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
lannoush2009 Eager! Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	hi planner...hi orwa...i have the same problem...i passed my fpgee exam first time thank god..i thought the most difficult part was over..but the toefl ibt speaking section is more difficult than the fpgee!!yesterday i read we can rescore it..i went and faxed them the recore form!!i hope they do accept it..my question is can i work before taking the fpgee certificate in a pharmacy?i cannot just keep on waiting for the speaking score..i believe i have to practice speaking?!?!i even started thinking of doing masters bec it seemed much easier than speaking section!i live in mi...any advice?

2009 June 22nd, 06:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
pharmatiffany I JUST got here. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CA, USA Posts: 10	Personally, I took the toefl ibt 11 times ! Finally I passed the TSE that i took in march this year, and I was really relieved. I would really suggest that you try to register for the next TSE and TOEFL because it's much easier. Me too, I used to get 29- 30 in reading, listening and writing, but I couldn't get more than 24 in speaking with rescoring. I also advise you to rescore every test you do because I always had a better score when I had rescored it. Good luck and think about the TSE.

2009 June 22nd, 03:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
lannoush2009 Eager! Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	there's no seats available in the united states for TSE ...what should i do?

2009 June 22nd, 05:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
essay899 Eager! Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 58	Do not give up on your Toefl Ibt. Do you know the website of Jason Renshaw on Voxopop? You can join the lessons with Jason and you will be able to pass it. I took the toefl multiple times, I already stop counting so I can't tell you how many times I took it. I bought all toefl books that you could imagine. However toefl is not just about speaking english, it is about organization and spontaneity. You need to check his website.[ TOEFL Speaking Mentor ] Renshaw Internet School of English Good Luck!

2009 June 22nd, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
planner GODS GRACE IS SUFFICIENT. Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 12	Lannoush keep on trying. Like i told you earlier rescoring might work for you because it did for me. In Ma, they do not need your FPGEC to start internship(though am there and not started yet). Its an option in the near future but my advice still stands. There are some sample answers on youtube...just type ouliogroove and you will get many sample questions with answers. This might also help with your speaking section. Good luck.

2009 June 23rd, 12:39 AM	#8 (permalink)
lannoush2009 Eager! Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	thank u planner and essay899...i will start looking for internship here in mi...and will try the next toefl ibt..i sent to rescore my scores ..crossing my fingers to get 3 more points..thank you..Bow wow wow yippee yo yippee yay!!!!11 advice from u guys bec we need someone to talk positvely to us bec these exams r done on our own..i mean it's not a college or uni were u gather and talk..so when u r on your own sometimes u feel it just u having all this trouble and that something is wrong with you..thank u again

2009 June 23rd, 02:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
lannoush2009 Eager! Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 50	i just checked the you tube..very helpful..thank u planner

2009 June 23rd, 03:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
pharmatiffany I JUST got here. Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: CA, USA Posts: 10	Hi, me too I thought that there were no seats avaliable in the US for the TSE when i looked online, until someone told me that ETS opened seats in los angeles for the TSE, but they don't want to do too much publicity about it because they prefer people to take the TOEFL iBT. Don't take the website into consideration because information about available seats is not right, go download a registration form in the TSE and TOEFL bulletin, and send them directly by mail to ETS. Ask for the X328 center (IKN in Los Angeles), I'm sure you'll find a place.

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