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sarah123 · 08-25-2007, 04:12 PM

Dear friends,
I am an active member of this forum for the past few months. I really appreciate all the members for their cooperation and support. This forum really helps foreign job seekers who is looking for a better future in US or Canada.

I am a foreign Pharmacist working in one of the Gulf country. I have cleared my FPGEC last year and Toefl & TSE 2 years back. So I got my FPGEC certificate.

As you all know to get an internship position in US we have to get some sponsors. I have contacted few chain Pharmacy groups last month and they are ready to offer a position but the problem is the limited number of H1 , so they are also not sure whether I will be one of the lucky winner!!!

We got the Canadian permanent residency in 2005, we landed in Canada and came back, by next year we have to permanently move there else we will lose our PR status. Now Iam in a fix which one to choose. I have not attended any of the Pharmacy exam in Canada, as I was planning for US. Now with the current H1 visa problems I am not sure how to proceed.

Is there any preference for the Pharmacist to get the Green Card visa??or they also have to be in the long line to get their Green Card Processed??

I know some of you guys are also in the same situation or must have gone through the same situation.

Please write your views ...looking for the advises from the seniors of this forum.

thanks in advance.

Sarah.

hiPEBC · 08-25-2007, 11:03 PM

The US visa is a long process so why loose the canadian PR for it? You can still travel to the US while in canada.

sadcat · 08-26-2007, 02:12 AM

hi,
if you are an canadian immigrant. you can work in U.S at TN VISA.

Trav · 08-26-2007, 03:15 AM

Hello,

Please read this link: Mexican and Canadian NAFTA Professional Worker

The last paragraph of the overview section says "Permanent residents, including Canadian permanent residents, are not able to apply to work as a NAFTA professional. "

This means ONLY the Canadian & Mexican citizens are eligible to apply for the TN visa.

I've also read from wikipedia that Permanent residents may apply for Canadian citizenship after spending three years in Canada. Link: Permanent resident (Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Are you in the process of acquiring the Canadian citizenship?

My advise to you:
1. Many US hospitals that are affiliated with the universities are considered to be "not for profit organizations". H1B cap does not apply to Not for profit organizations & Institutes of higher education (Universities). (H1B visa). - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Do your research well and try to apply for pharmacy internship positions. It is not easy.... but you may try your luck!!!!. The more aggressive you are the better the chances that you'll end up getting a job. Make as many phone calls as you can, write emails etc (to the right people)

2. Consider volunteering work at the pharmacy in the US (Your hours will be counted towards licensure). This is not easy!!!!, as you'll need $$$ to survive.

3. You may also consider applying for research jobs at the institutes of higher learning (that have affiliating hospitals). Once you get hired, you can work part time at their hospital pharmacy.

I'm not an immigration lawyer.... Do some more research

Trav

sarah123 · 08-26-2007, 10:47 AM

thanks trav,
I am still in gulf, if I want to apply for the citizenship I have to be in Canada for 3 years.So I dont know whether I should try to get the Citizenship in Canada and then try for US job or move on an H1 and apply for the green card later.
sarah.

LadyJane · 08-27-2007, 04:25 AM

If you really want to be in US, than you should go for US than.
But you are already have PR in Canada you are treated here as a person who has all the rights , well, except for the right to vote

On the other hand you are trying to get in US. For that you are trying to get a working visa than you are going to try to win a green cart. When that going to happen - who knows.
So as total: Canada - you have a stable position - with free medicine as a bonus. US - unstable position. You choose.

In my language there is a saying: "Better to have a small bird in hands than a big bird in the sky" Not trying to offend, but for me it's really describing a position you are in.

From our experience, well when we were waiting for the news from a Canadian embassy about our immigration process, my husband get a job offer from US(with a H1 visa). We choose not to go in US.

Good luck in any case

Pharmacist771 · 08-27-2007, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trav

Hello,

Please read this link: Mexican and Canadian NAFTA Professional Worker

The last paragraph of the overview section says "Permanent residents, including Canadian permanent residents, are not able to apply to work as a NAFTA professional. "

This means ONLY the Canadian & Mexican citizens are eligible to apply for the TN visa.

I've also read from wikipedia that Permanent residents may apply for Canadian citizenship after spending three years in Canada. Link: Permanent resident (Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Are you in the process of acquiring the Canadian citizenship?

My advise to you:
1. Many US hospitals that are affiliated with the universities are considered to be "not for profit organizations". H1B cap does not apply to Not for profit organizations & Institutes of higher education (Universities). (H1B visa). - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Do your research well and try to apply for pharmacy internship positions. It is not easy.... but you may try your luck!!!!. The more aggressive you are the better the chances that you'll end up getting a job. Make as many phone calls as you can, write emails etc (to the right people)

2. Consider volunteering work at the pharmacy in the US (Your hours will be counted towards licensure). This is not easy!!!!, as you'll need $$$ to survive.

3. You may also consider applying for research jobs at the institutes of higher learning (that have affiliating hospitals). Once you get hired, you can work part time at their hospital pharmacy.

I'm not an immigration lawyer.... Do some more research

Trav

What Visa do I need to work as a volunteer in a pharmacy?

KingTuT · 08-27-2007, 06:52 AM

Hello Sarah123,
Well, let me make things more clear from my point of view. There is no doubt that the, international organizations around the world have ranked Canada as best place on earth to live in for the last 5 years.

But in my opinion it is for those who were born and bread in Canada not for new immigrants. Wherever you go for a job in Canada employers keep asking for Canadian credentials!! I don't know where a fresh landed immigrant would have Canadian credentials!! and you end up working as Pizza delivery, taxi driver, office boy....etc.

Canadian TAX system gives hard time to all people in Canada. Needles to comment that salaries in Canada are much less then USA. Opportunities in USA are 10 times more than Canada.

Canada has been adopting huge immigration program since more than 25 years, yet they are still hungry for people, do you know why? coz more than 60% of landed immigrants leave Canada in the first year and their first destination not home country USA for sure and this a huge problem for Canada. Canada suffers from brain drainage to USA. To add more, immigration process to Canada now, takes more than 6 years in most of their embassies around the world. In cities like Delhi, Moscow, Damascus, it takes even 8 years!!!

Comparing the process of doing Canadian and American pharmacists equivalence's exams, I think Canadian ones are really harder and lengthy. I heard people who have been in this process for 5 YEARS!! especially that exam which is like a personal interview!!

If you are not rich, Canada is not for you. like some citizens from some countries who sell their homes for 5 million dollars then go to Canada and buy a house costs 1 million and put the rest of their money in a Canadian bank then live and enjoy the best country in the world.

Just my point of view with best luck to all.

Trav · 08-27-2007, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist771

What Visa do I need to work as a volunteer in a pharmacy?

Any type of visa will work (visitors, F1, e.t.c)

Pharmacist771 · 08-27-2007, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trav

Any type of visa will work (visitors, F1, e.t.c)

Thank you.

08-25-2007, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
sarah123 Eager! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 63	Canada PR status/ H1 visa Dear friends, I am an active member of this forum for the past few months. I really appreciate all the members for their cooperation and support. This forum really helps foreign job seekers who is looking for a better future in US or Canada. I am a foreign Pharmacist working in one of the Gulf country. I have cleared my FPGEC last year and Toefl & TSE 2 years back. So I got my FPGEC certificate. As you all know to get an internship position in US we have to get some sponsors. I have contacted few chain Pharmacy groups last month and they are ready to offer a position but the problem is the limited number of H1 , so they are also not sure whether I will be one of the lucky winner!!! We got the Canadian permanent residency in 2005, we landed in Canada and came back, by next year we have to permanently move there else we will lose our PR status. Now Iam in a fix which one to choose. I have not attended any of the Pharmacy exam in Canada, as I was planning for US. Now with the current H1 visa problems I am not sure how to proceed. Is there any preference for the Pharmacist to get the Green Card visa??or they also have to be in the long line to get their Green Card Processed?? I know some of you guys are also in the same situation or must have gone through the same situation. Please write your views ...looking for the advises from the seniors of this forum. thanks in advance. Sarah.

08-27-2007, 06:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
KingTuT TestMagic Guru-in-Training Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 837	Hello Sarah123, Well, let me make things more clear from my point of view. There is no doubt that the, international organizations around the world have ranked Canada as best place on earth to live in for the last 5 years. But in my opinion it is for those who were born and bread in Canada not for new immigrants. Wherever you go for a job in Canada employers keep asking for Canadian credentials!! I don't know where a fresh landed immigrant would have Canadian credentials!! and you end up working as Pizza delivery, taxi driver, office boy....etc. Canadian TAX system gives hard time to all people in Canada. Needles to comment that salaries in Canada are much less then USA. Opportunities in USA are 10 times more than Canada. Canada has been adopting huge immigration program since more than 25 years, yet they are still hungry for people, do you know why? coz more than 60% of landed immigrants leave Canada in the first year and their first destination not home country USA for sure and this a huge problem for Canada. Canada suffers from brain drainage to USA. To add more, immigration process to Canada now, takes more than 6 years in most of their embassies around the world. In cities like Delhi, Moscow, Damascus, it takes even 8 years!!! Comparing the process of doing Canadian and American pharmacists equivalence's exams, I think Canadian ones are really harder and lengthy. I heard people who have been in this process for 5 YEARS!! especially that exam which is like a personal interview!! If you are not rich, Canada is not for you. like some citizens from some countries who sell their homes for 5 million dollars then go to Canada and buy a house costs 1 million and put the rest of their money in a Canadian bank then live and enjoy the best country in the world. Just my point of view with best luck to all. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ KingTuT FPGEE Jun2006, TSE, Sept 2005, TOEFL July 2005, FPGEE certificate August21st. In progress Master in pharmacology. Read my blog in pharmainfo.net http://blog.pharmainfo.net/kingtut/ Last edited by KingTuT : 08-27-2007 at 09:30 AM.

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08-25-2007, 11:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
hiPEBC Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 347	The US visa is a long process so why loose the canadian PR for it? You can still travel to the US while in canada.

08-26-2007, 02:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
sadcat Eager! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: U.S.A Posts: 62	hi, if you are an canadian immigrant. you can work in U.S at TN VISA.

08-26-2007, 03:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Trav Eager! Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 93	Hello, Please read this link: Mexican and Canadian NAFTA Professional Worker The last paragraph of the overview section says *"Permanent residents, including Canadian permanent residents, are not able to apply to work as a NAFTA professional. "* This means ONLY the Canadian & Mexican citizens are eligible to apply for the TN visa. I've also read from wikipedia that *Permanent residents may apply for Canadian citizenship after spending three years in Canada*. Link: Permanent resident (Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). Are you in the process of acquiring the Canadian citizenship? My advise to you: 1. Many US hospitals that are affiliated with the universities are considered to be "not for profit organizations". H1B cap does not apply to Not for profit organizations & Institutes of higher education (Universities). (H1B visa). - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Do your research well and try to apply for pharmacy internship positions. It is not easy.... but you may try your luck!!!!. The more aggressive you are the better the chances that you'll end up getting a job. Make as many phone calls as you can, write emails etc (to the right people) 2. Consider volunteering work at the pharmacy in the US (Your hours will be counted towards licensure). This is not easy!!!!, as you'll need $$$ to survive. 3. You may also consider applying for research jobs at the institutes of higher learning (that have affiliating hospitals). Once you get hired, you can work part time at their hospital pharmacy. I'm not an immigration lawyer.... Do some more research Trav

08-26-2007, 10:47 AM	#5 (permalink)
sarah123 Eager! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 63	thanks trav, I am still in gulf, if I want to apply for the citizenship I have to be in Canada for 3 years.So I dont know whether I should try to get the Citizenship in Canada and then try for US job or move on an H1 and apply for the green card later. sarah.

08-27-2007, 04:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
LadyJane Eager! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Vancouver Posts: 59	If you really want to be in US, than you should go for US than. But you are already have PR in Canada you are treated here as a person who has all the rights , well, except for the right to vote On the other hand you are trying to get in US. For that you are trying to get a working visa than you are going to try to win a green cart. When that going to happen - who knows. So as total: Canada - you have a stable position - with free medicine as a bonus. US - unstable position. You choose. In my language there is a saying: "Better to have a small bird in hands than a big bird in the sky" Not trying to offend, but for me it's really describing a position you are in. From our experience, well when we were waiting for the news from a Canadian embassy about our immigration process, my husband get a job offer from US(with a H1 visa). We choose not to go in US. Good luck in any case

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