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AJRAYES · 2008 January 26th, 02:15 PM

I know that this thread shoud be posted in the Toefl Form and I apologize for that, but I thought that I should share it with you guys cause I am a pharmacist and I wanted all foreign pharmacists who struggled or still struggling with Toefl iBT to know that there is a hope.
The Toefl scoring report for 12/12/2007 was:
Reading 27
Listening 19
Speaking 23
Writing 24
Now, my exam was 7:30 AM wednesday morning, and i had to work 10 hours shift on monday and tuesday, and that's why I justified my poor performance on the Listening section because I was really exhausted, but the one I couldn't find an excuse for was the speaking section score and I mentioned before how frustrated I was about it and that I sent a rescoring request for it.
I've received the rescore result by mail yesterday and they actually added 4 points to my previous 23, so now it's 27 and that's what I was looking for.
I wanted to thank Pharmalady, one of the Speaking section victims, who encouraged me also to go for rescoring.
I just wanted you guys to know that whenever you score all what they ask for, but between 23 and 25 in speaking, then, you should definitley go for rescoring and never hesitate.
Now I am done with FPGEE and hopefully with FPGEC too, and I will see you guys in the NAPLEX form.
Best of luck and success for all of you.

knok · 2008 January 26th, 09:07 PM

Congratulations!

This is one of scoring errors that ETS has made.

I am suspicious how NABP respects "TOEFL iBT scoring process."

It is unbelievable that NABP, the only organization that certifies Pharmacists of the United States, use "TOEFL iBT" to certify "Pharmacist."

AJRAYES · 2008 January 27th, 05:24 AM

Thank you Knok.
I know!!, I am sure now that they have a big problem in the scoring process, yet, they still depend on ETS for English standards.

I wish the best of luck and success for every foreign pharmacist in US.

NanaAdu · 2008 January 27th, 02:39 PM

I think everyone who takes toeflibt should make use of the rescoring opportunity, it works! I passed my fpgee at the first attempt in Dec 06, then I started taking toefl. I took it 6 times, had speaking 22 once, 23 twice and 24 three times; I was getting frustrated by the day then after the last attempt on 12/7/07 I decided to request a rescore after reading other peoples' experiences on the forum, and by God's grace I got 26 after rescoring and got my money back too!
So guys use it and don't get discouraged

cheesecake · 2008 January 27th, 08:29 PM

Congratulations for passing the TOEFL-ibt. I was also a victim of the ibt speaking section. I got 23 in my first two attempts but I did not opt to ask for a rescore because I think my score would not even change. After reading your post I am considering to have my results rescored.

vanja · 2008 January 29th, 02:56 AM

I took iBT TOEFL 4 times and requested rescoring of the speaking part 3 times. Here are the results before and after rescoring:
test 1: 23 has changed to 26
test 2: 18 has changed to 23
test 3: 23 has changed to 26
( I didn't passed test 1 because of 22 in writing part).
As you can see, everytime I reqested rescoring, I got 3 (5 !!!) more points. Of course, I was aware that there was no chance to get 26 after 18, but I didn't want to let them to make a fool out of me! At least, I got my money back

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I think that something is really wrong with standards for scoring the speaking part. If " professional raters " do the rescoring then I would like to know how professional the regular raters are! How is it possible that their job has been overriden every time? My strategy for TOEFL was to ask for rescoring every time. It's hard for me to encourage you to do the same thing, because that means more money for ETS. But it worked for me...
We have to prove that they are inconsistent in scoring speaking part. In my case that is 100% mistake

.

KingTuT · 2008 January 29th, 03:58 AM

I am very happy for you brother , may Allah help you in all your coming steps

AJRAYES · 2008 January 29th, 05:03 AM

THANK YOU KINGTUT
How are you sister?, where have you been?

RBC · 2008 January 30th, 06:45 PM

Hi friends,

How do we request rescoring for TOEFL IBT? Do we need to send our scoresheet with the request? Is it only for speaking section only or we can request for writing part as well? Please help me as I have failed the exam for 2 points in writing and 2 points in speaking. Thanks.

rxach · 2008 January 31st, 01:42 AM

I put in a request for rescoring and my account was charged on 12/28/07 but have not heard from ETS.

2008 January 26th, 02:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
AJRAYES Eager! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MI Posts: 66	Toefl iBT Rescoring result for 12/12/2007!!! I know that this thread shoud be posted in the Toefl Form and I apologize for that, but I thought that I should share it with you guys cause I am a pharmacist and I wanted all foreign pharmacists who struggled or still struggling with Toefl iBT to know that there is a hope. The Toefl scoring report for 12/12/2007 was: Reading 27 Listening 19 Speaking 23 Writing 24 Now, my exam was 7:30 AM wednesday morning, and i had to work 10 hours shift on monday and tuesday, and that's why I justified my poor performance on the Listening section because I was really exhausted, but the one I couldn't find an excuse for was the speaking section score and I mentioned before how frustrated I was about it and that I sent a rescoring request for it. I've received the rescore result by mail yesterday and they actually added 4 points to my previous 23, so now it's 27 and that's what I was looking for. I wanted to thank Pharmalady, one of the Speaking section victims, who encouraged me also to go for rescoring. I just wanted you guys to know that whenever you score all what they ask for, but between 23 and 25 in speaking, then, you should definitley go for rescoring and never hesitate. Now I am done with FPGEE and hopefully with FPGEC too, and I will see you guys in the NAPLEX form. Best of luck and success for all of you. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most

2008 January 26th, 09:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
knok TestMagic Guru Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,187	Congratulations! This is one of scoring errors that ETS has made. I am suspicious how NABP respects "TOEFL iBT scoring process." It is unbelievable that NABP, the only organization that certifies Pharmacists of the United States, use "TOEFL iBT" to certify "Pharmacist." _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Facts: Be sure to pass all sections of TOEFL iBT (R21, L18, S26*,W24) before applying for FPGEE. Thousands of candidates passed FPGEE but could not achieve TOEFL requirement after several attempts. Percent passing rate on the speaking section is only 10 percent. (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, page 5) The average score on the speaking section of the US candidates is 22 and candidates from English speaking countries is 23 (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, p. 9-10.) Would you like to see changes? Cilck here ->http://www.aetr.org/index.php to file TOEFL reform

2008 January 27th, 05:24 AM	#3 (permalink)
AJRAYES Eager! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MI Posts: 66	Thank you Knok. I know!!, I am sure now that they have a big problem in the scoring process, yet, they still depend on ETS for English standards. I wish the best of luck and success for every foreign pharmacist in US. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most

2008 January 29th, 02:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
vanja I JUST got here. Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 7	I took iBT TOEFL 4 times and requested rescoring of the speaking part 3 times. Here are the results before and after rescoring: test 1: 23 has changed to 26 test 2: 18 has changed to 23 test 3: 23 has changed to 26 ( I didn't passed test 1 because of 22 in writing part). As you can see, everytime I reqested rescoring, I got 3 (5 !!!) more points. Of course, I was aware that there was no chance to get 26 after 18, but I didn't want to let them to make a fool out of me! At least, I got my money back. I think that something is really wrong with standards for scoring the speaking part. If " professional raters " do the rescoring then I would like to know how professional the regular raters are! How is it possible that their job has been overriden every time? My strategy for TOEFL was to ask for rescoring every time. It's hard for me to encourage you to do the same thing, because that means more money for ETS. But it worked for me... We have to prove that they are inconsistent in scoring speaking part. In my case that is 100% mistake.

2008 January 29th, 03:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
KingTuT TestMagic Guru-in-Training Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 836	I am very happy for you brother , may Allah help you in all your coming steps _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ KingTuT FPGEE Jun2006, TSE, Sept 2005, TOEFL July 2005, FPGEE certificate August21st. In progress Master in pharmacology. Read my blog in pharmainfo.net http://blog.pharmainfo.net/kingtut/

2008 January 27th, 02:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
NanaAdu I JUST got here. Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4	I think everyone who takes toeflibt should make use of the rescoring opportunity, it works! I passed my fpgee at the first attempt in Dec 06, then I started taking toefl. I took it 6 times, had speaking 22 once, 23 twice and 24 three times; I was getting frustrated by the day then after the last attempt on 12/7/07 I decided to request a rescore after reading other peoples' experiences on the forum, and by God's grace I got 26 after rescoring and got my money back too! So guys use it and don't get discouraged

2008 January 27th, 08:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
cheesecake I JUST got here. Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 13	Congratulations for passing the TOEFL-ibt. I was also a victim of the ibt speaking section. I got 23 in my first two attempts but I did not opt to ask for a rescore because I think my score would not even change. After reading your post I am considering to have my results rescored.

2008 January 29th, 05:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
AJRAYES Eager! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MI Posts: 66	THANK YOU KINGTUT How are you sister?, where have you been? _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most

2008 January 30th, 06:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
RBC Eager! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 44	Hi friends, How do we request rescoring for TOEFL IBT? Do we need to send our scoresheet with the request? Is it only for speaking section only or we can request for writing part as well? Please help me as I have failed the exam for 2 points in writing and 2 points in speaking. Thanks.

2008 January 31st, 01:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
rxach I JUST got here. Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 21	I put in a request for rescoring and my account was charged on 12/28/07 but have not heard from ETS.

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