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knok · 03-26-2008, 01:22 AM

I am still having them. I know that I can be licensed as a pharmacist in MI now since I applied before June 30, last year, but again no chance to move. I let CA Intern expire since I could not move there.

I know some members here in this forum have many pharmacy licenses in many states but they cannot move so they do not practice.

Oh! After elaborating some disadvantages of being pharmacists and living in America, I forgot to mention the best and strongest point.

Most of the time, if you have good reasons to present your standpoint, your voices and your opinions will be listened. The justice system in this country is strong. Many Americans prefer to be lawyers rather than to be employees in healthcare if they think they are smart. I am not saying that people who work in healthcare in this country are not smart but a majority of Americans tend to like to be or to have their children study in law schools. This attitude draws many good and smart people to choose to work in the justice system.

This always creates problems. Companies such as Microsoft or other software companies go abroad to search for talented candidates in other countries where sciences and math are emphasized in their curriculum in schools. Many third world countries cannot develop much because of weak justice systems resulting in instabilities of politic situations. When political situations in those countries are not stable, they usually affect economic situations since investors from outside those countries are not confident to invest and bring money and jobs there.

Actually, I just came back from a court hearing. I went to explain my situation. I received a parking ticket. That day, I saw a police writing a ticket and put it in the front of my wind-shield while I was crossing a busy street. The ticket has expired for 3 minutes. I explained reasons and the judge listened very well and reduced the fee.

In my home country, a majority of people like to study and to be doctors, not lawyers. Good students all become doctors. After they finish M.D., they come to study abroad. Good doctors work in hospitals. What happens next? Then, we can have good workforce to work in hospitals. When good doctors work in hospitals, hospitals become famous all over the world. What happens next? Many people in Europe and America send patients to receive medical treatments over there. This is another example. That’s why we cannot stop people to mobilize. Transportations make it possible for goods and services to become available worldwide.

You cannot stop free market. Demand and supply will balance eventually.

We are in an Era of Globalization.

The end...

americandream · 03-28-2008, 01:20 PM

Just a quick question to anyone knows this,

What's the average salary of retail pharmacists in Northern Ireland?

knok · 03-29-2008, 10:53 PM

Are you planning to migrate to any country? Check the length of licensing process, GDP, political situations, working conditions, and schools for your children in the future. Check how much those countries welcome foreigners as well.

Life is short. Choose the best city that you think that you will be happy. Weather, culture, and education seem to be the most important factors over the money.

Osman_MPharmS · 05-03-2008, 07:06 PM

Hi Guys i am a BRITISH pharmacist and I am looking for an intern after ninah saying what she is it is making me wonder, But in the long run it's not about money it's about lifestyle lifestyle in USA better!!!

Egyptian Pharmacist · 05-03-2008, 10:30 PM

i can't understand you, you mean after the FPGEE, the TOEFL and the Naplex we have to work as intren pharmacist for 10000 hrs?!!!!!
so you mean we can't work after the FPGEE????
please answer me

APhA · 05-04-2008, 12:42 PM

As far as I know, depending on the state, required internship hours range from 500 to 1500 hours. NOT 10,000. These are paid internships REQUIRED for one to have a Pharmacist License. So in essence, it is classified as working; because you will be paid. That's why an H1B visa is required. Read NABP <> National Association of Boards of Pharmacy to understand better. But to hopefully simplify, it is basically:

TOEFL + FPGEE = FPGECertificate
FPGEC + State Internship License + acceptance of Sponsor offer = H1B application by sponsor
H1B approval = Eligibility to complete Internship hours
completion of Internship Hours = NAPLEX Eligibility
passing NAPLEX = Pharmacy License

Again, depending on state, there may be some slight variations in these steps/requirements.

Guys new to this, I know all these processes can be mind-boggling. But I urge you, especially those who already received their FPGEC, read the paper that came with your certificate! It has all the links and contact details of each states' Board of Pharmacy that you need for your next step. Make sure you read those papers first before asking. Everyone is trying to help each other, but please understand, everyone is tense with their own concerns too. So hopefully, just valid questions please.

Egyptian Pharmacist, I know your question is valid. Just saying it to everyone in general. Hope I didn't offend you. So guess I can say now... "Welcome aboard!!!!

" yes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Egyptian Pharmacist

i can't understand you, you mean after the FPGEE, the TOEFL and the Naplex we have to work as intren pharmacist for 10000 hrs?!!!!!
so you mean we can't work after the FPGEE????
please answer me

ninah · 05-04-2008, 03:27 PM

Hi Osman MpharmS
Are you still looking?where in Uk did you practice?

Egyptian Pharmacist · 05-05-2008, 12:49 AM

Thank you so much for answering me.
-

Osman_MPharmS · 05-15-2008, 08:57 PM

Hi Ninah I am in England Still, I graduated from Leicester and I am working in PCT pharmacy I am in the Yorkshire area, is it possible you could PM me and we could chat?

Osman_MPharmS · 05-30-2008, 08:04 AM

Hi Ninah how is it going ? how you finding it out there

03-26-2008, 01:22 AM	#31 (permalink)
knok TestMagic Guru Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,045	I am still having them. I know that I can be licensed as a pharmacist in MI now since I applied before June 30, last year, but again no chance to move. I let CA Intern expire since I could not move there. I know some members here in this forum have many pharmacy licenses in many states but they cannot move so they do not practice. Oh! After elaborating some disadvantages of being pharmacists and living in America, I forgot to mention the best and strongest point. Most of the time, if you have good reasons to present your standpoint, your voices and your opinions will be listened. The justice system in this country is strong. Many Americans prefer to be lawyers rather than to be employees in healthcare if they think they are smart. I am not saying that people who work in healthcare in this country are not smart but a majority of Americans tend to like to be or to have their children study in law schools. This attitude draws many good and smart people to choose to work in the justice system. This always creates problems. Companies such as Microsoft or other software companies go abroad to search for talented candidates in other countries where sciences and math are emphasized in their curriculum in schools. Many third world countries cannot develop much because of weak justice systems resulting in instabilities of politic situations. When political situations in those countries are not stable, they usually affect economic situations since investors from outside those countries are not confident to invest and bring money and jobs there. Actually, I just came back from a court hearing. I went to explain my situation. I received a parking ticket. That day, I saw a police writing a ticket and put it in the front of my wind-shield while I was crossing a busy street. The ticket has expired for 3 minutes. I explained reasons and the judge listened very well and reduced the fee. In my home country, a majority of people like to study and to be doctors, not lawyers. Good students all become doctors. After they finish M.D., they come to study abroad. Good doctors work in hospitals. What happens next? Then, we can have good workforce to work in hospitals. When good doctors work in hospitals, hospitals become famous all over the world. What happens next? Many people in Europe and America send patients to receive medical treatments over there. This is another example. That’s why we cannot stop people to mobilize. Transportations make it possible for goods and services to become available worldwide. You cannot stop free market. Demand and supply will balance eventually. We are in an Era of Globalization. The end... _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ "Every reason that tells you that things will never change disappears." "I did what I had to do because it is the right thing to do." Last edited by knok : 03-26-2008 at 02:57 AM.

03-29-2008, 10:53 PM	#33 (permalink)
knok TestMagic Guru Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,045	Are you planning to migrate to any country? Check the length of licensing process, GDP, political situations, working conditions, and schools for your children in the future. Check how much those countries welcome foreigners as well. Life is short. Choose the best city that you think that you will be happy. Weather, culture, and education seem to be the most important factors over the money. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ "Every reason that tells you that things will never change disappears." "I did what I had to do because it is the right thing to do."

05-03-2008, 07:06 PM	#34 (permalink)
Osman_MPharmS Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 196	Hi Guys i am a BRITISH pharmacist and I am looking for an intern after ninah saying what she is it is making me wonder, But in the long run it's not about money it's about lifestyle lifestyle in USA better!!! _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Looking for an INTERNSHIP A wise man learns by the mistakes of others, A fool learns from his own mistakes!

05-05-2008, 12:49 AM	#38 (permalink)
Egyptian Pharmacist Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 18	Thank you so much for answering me. - Last edited by knok : 05-05-2008 at 04:23 AM. Reason: Capital letter, .

05-15-2008, 08:57 PM	#39 (permalink)
Osman_MPharmS Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 196	Hi Ninah I am in England Still, I graduated from Leicester and I am working in PCT pharmacy I am in the Yorkshire area, is it possible you could PM me and we could chat? _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Looking for an INTERNSHIP A wise man learns by the mistakes of others, A fool learns from his own mistakes!

03-28-2008, 01:20 PM	#32 (permalink)
americandream Eager! Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 31	Just a quick question to anyone knows this, What's the average salary of retail pharmacists in Northern Ireland?

05-03-2008, 10:30 PM	#35 (permalink)
Egyptian Pharmacist Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 18	i can't understand you, you mean after the FPGEE, the TOEFL and the Naplex we have to work as intren pharmacist for 10000 hrs?!!!!! so you mean we can't work after the FPGEE???? please answer me

05-04-2008, 03:27 PM	#37 (permalink)
ninah Within my grasp! Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 189	Hi Osman MpharmS Are you still looking?where in Uk did you practice?

05-30-2008, 08:04 AM	#40 (permalink)
Osman_MPharmS Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 196	Hi Ninah how is it going ? how you finding it out there _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Looking for an INTERNSHIP A wise man learns by the mistakes of others, A fool learns from his own mistakes!

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