International Pharmacists with advanced US Degrees who passed FPGEE but not TOEFLiBT

[Babak]

Knok,
I am doubted if you have already gathered a petition about this issue! or not,

If not then;
Why don't we make a Petition and process it through its legal duct?

We can make a petition about the discremination between different medical groups who are licensed in the US and working here in the same community & environment.
Why the other medical groups like; Physicians, Dentists, Nurses, ... can get thier licenses by iBT Speaking score of 24(or even lower) or other alternative English Test while pharmacists have to take only TOEFL iBT and it is only acceptable when the score of Speaking section is 26?

[knok]

I am sorry that I can't disclose that information at this time.

Doctors have their own speaking test. Consultation with real patients. The medical board suggests candidates to earn 45 on TSE( For measuring of general English speaking, not for the board purpose. I guess because the board knows that content does matter in patient consultation. 45 on the TSE is at 55 percentile which is a lot different than 50 on TSE which is at 85 percentile.) before taking this consultation test.

Nurses are allow IELTS.

Dentists, Physical Therapists, Occupational Therapists have the same problem as us. However, some physical therapists were waived from this speaking test.

[Babak]

Originally Posted by knok

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3. Which groups care about pharmacist shortage? Can we talk to them?
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Knok

I think the answer of this question is the "Achilles Tendon". Only this group can change the rules at any time when they feel it is necessary, otherwise, it is hard to do so....

[knok]

How do you know that they didn't or don't do anything? They might try but they couldn't or can't because of some political phenomenon or bureacratic system of some institutions.

Can they fix alone? If they can, how much can they fix? Were they sending rhetorical questions?

Please be advised that people in the NABP office are not suffering from this problem directly. They have lunch breaks. They don't have to go to take a lousy Internet based TOEFL iBT. The pharmacists who stand in the stores, can't go to bathroom, are yelling by patients because of long lines in drugstores, and don't have time to eat lunch are affected.

Check the first article of that thread. Is pharmacy profession a trade?

[Babak]

When they need physicians or nurses, they make those alternatives. It happens exactly for other groups as well if they feel the crisis.

[knok]

Agree.

Probably, those article show the crisis. Did those article send across those authorities? Did they read them? If not, how can those authorities see them?

Boardcasting again and again? What is the best channel of distributions for spreading news?

Legislators?

[Babak]

It happens only following to

• increase of Pharmacists complaint in their pharmacies about load of job and the fulfillment of their responsibilities.
• Serious Shortage of relief pharmacists; and
• crisis of losing money and benefits by big companies.

[knok]

It is more than that.

The main point is about medical errors and lawsuits related to increases of workload.

Imagine that if the workload is too high and medical errors become common, patients may not trust pharmacists anymore. At that point, it is not about which nationalities that the pharmacists are. "You are pharmacists who dispense them medications."

[Babak]

Originally Posted by knok

It is more than that.
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I Agree.
And the solution is far away our hand...

Enjoy Your Life,

[knok]

Originally Posted by Babak

I Agree.
And the solution is far away our hand...

Enjoy Your Life,

"If one can do a little, that little piece of help will make a difference."

"One drop of water raises the sea."

"We often discourage from taking action because we feel the challenge is too huge to overcome. I know I feel like that sometimes. I found that it is always best to add the smallest number of drops that have the greatest effect and focus everything on those to create a chain reaction that leads to success."