rajna Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Is there any site which shows average GMAT score for PHD in various schools [similar to B-week or US News for MBA]. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkkoh Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Check the respective schools FAQ pages. Most of them will state the GMAT average/range. Most of the "top" schools (by MBA ranking) have an average of between 720 to 750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajna Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 do you know schools that admit students with a gmat of 580 or 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg6363 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 do you know schools that admit students with a gmat of 580 or 600 Realistically, you're going to have to score at least a 650 (>70th percentile quantitative) to be considered for ANY finance PhD program. Even the lower-level schools require a high level of quantitative ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootermcgavin7 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 do you know schools that admit students with a gmat of 580 or 600 I'd say you'll need closer to a 690-700 to be considered for anything in the top 50. The other two answers have given a good target score for schools significantly higher and significantly lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkkoh Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Based on the data in gradjournal.com, the lowest GMAT score for an admit is 680. But note that there are also a number of rejects for GMAT > 750. So, as it has been said many times, GMAT alone is not sufficient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbsears Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Based on the data in gradjournal.com, the lowest GMAT score for an admit is 680. But note that there are also a number of rejects for GMAT > 750. So, as it has been said many times, GMAT alone is not sufficient. I like what tkkoh is saying here. GMAT is not the only factor going to get you in but if it is too low it can be a killer. The GMAT is a test of your intellectual horsepower so it tells the admissions committee if your 3.5+ GPA was from tireless studying or because your are naturally intelligent. The admissions committees know that some of the material is going to be too difficult for those that aren't naturally intelligent but work extremely hard for their grades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esfand Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 I know someone with a 620 get in a good phd program in finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 (edited) You can get a job teaching, researching reasonably and making a reasonable income simply coming from a aacsb accredited school; many schools that do not offer finance still offer a finance focus that will allow you to get a tenure track job at an aacsb accredited institution. My father in law got into such a program with a GMAT 600 verbal heavy: with funding. Ps according to the aacsb webpage the following have finance PhD programs and accept people at or below 620. * School Location %*Fit Cleveland State University, Nance College of Business Administration Cleveland, OH Florida Atlantic University, College of Business Boca Raton, FL 100 Florida Int'l University, College of Business Administration Miami, FL 100 Louisiana Tech University, College of Business Ruston, LA 100 Mississippi State University, College of Business Edited November 7, 2010 by rsaylors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khema Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 back to GMAT score for PhD, is there a certain "desired" score split for different disciplines, eg for quant based subjects the quant score should be higher than the verbal score - ? I am asking because, although my overall score is quite good (750), my Quant score is lower than my Verbal score - and I am applying for a quant based subject (Accounting). My score is Quant: 45 (86%) Verbal: 44 (97%) Total: 750 (98%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Khema, when did you take your test? There has been a LOT of grade inflation since you last took the GMAT V44 is still 97% but Q 45 is 72%; My old 41/41 680 was in the 85th% now with a V44Q45 I'm in the 94th% Keep in mind that your scores will have been retroactively reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khema Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I took the test yesterday (11 November 2010). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Hum... either not all v44/q45s are created equal or you have a q49/v44, which would bring you to about the 85% on Q, which would be about a 760. http://www.mba.com/mba/thegmat/gmatscoresandscorereports/whatyourpercentilerankingmeans.htm Either way, from what I've seen most good universities have a 'joke' pile for those with less than 80% in either sub section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khema Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ups sorry - you are right, my Q score is 49 (not 44), and I am right on that table under 750 overall, and 49 (86%) on Quant. My worries were about Verbal higher than Quant (97% vs 86%). Either way, since both are above 80% I would probably pass the 'cut off' line. I do understand the GMAT score is just one of the elements and it has a large margin of error... Since this is the component of the application I have most control over right now, I wanted to make it as good as I could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Ups sorry - you are right, my Q score is 49 (not 44), and I am right on that table under 750 overall, and 49 (86%) on Quant. My worries were about Verbal higher than Quant (97% vs 86%). Either way, since both are above 80% I would probably pass the 'cut off' line. I do understand the GMAT score is just one of the elements and it has a large margin of error... Since this is the component of the application I have most control over right now, I wanted to make it as good as I could. Do not feel like you failed just because Q is great but not amazing; keep in mind that even accounting involves a great deal of english proficiency. You are applying to be trained to be a writer. Your scores are good enough for any program to be reasonable to apply to; don't let the 99%ers around here tell you otherwise. What matters now isn't re-taking GMAT, what matters is having a focused research interest that meshes well with the faculty at the schools you want to go to. Find references and write an intent letter that lets the AC know you are a dedicated scholar, a mature student and a proactive lover of knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khema Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Thanks rsaylors for the encouragement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregc1213 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I have a similar score - which by the way is an amazing score that you should not worry about for one instant. From conversations I've had, one of the biggest issues professors see in applicants is such a discrepancy in GMAT sections (i.e. high quant and very low verbal). Accounting is not as quant-focused as some fields (i.e. finance and econ) and most people truly underestimate the role effective writing/presenting plays in the career. They would rather see a 49Q/45V than a 51Q/35V. Competence in math is a necessity but being a superstar is not a pre-requisite to being a great accounting researcher. Anyway, you should feel encouraged in every way as that score will not be a liability in any way but it is never a bad idea to take some supplemental math to say i can improve on that 49. Best of luck - the score will provide you an in but it's up to you to prove you belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khema Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 thanks again, and I am taking math classes right now that in fact are much harder than the GMAT math ))) I am proud of my Verbal btw since I am non-native Eng speaker didn't mean to boast here, just venting since I have noone around me right now who knows what GMAT is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian phd Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 You can get a job teaching, researching reasonably and making a reasonable income simply coming from a aacsb accredited school; many schools that do not offer finance still offer a finance focus that will allow you to get a tenure track job at an aacsb accredited institution. My father in law got into such a program with a GMAT 600 verbal heavy: with funding. Ps according to the aacsb webpage the following have finance PhD programs and accept people at or below 620. * School Location %*Fit Cleveland State University, Nance College of Business Administration Cleveland, OH Florida Atlantic University, College of Business Boca Raton, FL 100 Florida Int'l University, College of Business Administration Miami, FL 100 Louisiana Tech University, College of Business Ruston, LA 100 Mississippi State University, College of Business Do you really want to choose your PhD program based on who has the lowest admission standards? I strongly suggest you re-evaluate that decision. The four year program will determine, to a large extent, the rest of your professional life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Do you really want to choose your PhD program based on who has the lowest admission standards? I strongly suggest you re-evaluate that decision. The four year program will determine, to a large extent, the rest of your professional life. Clearly you want to do the best you can; but some can only play the game at a 620 and those people shouldn't be told they have no place in academia, or have to put up with people saying "You CANT do finance unless you get a 720+". Why do you think there is such a plethora of finance and dearth of CIS applicants on this board? Money, right? Think about it, should you be choosing what will essentially define you as an intellectual based on the difference between 100k and 130k average starting pay? People do it all the time; but having attended a program with a GMAT average in the 500s I can assure you that there are few PhD programs that will fail to train you to be a reasonable academician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefulphd123 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Hello, These scores are excellent. I realise that to get in a top school one must have a top score, however how stringent are they regarding these scores. I had a bad test and scored 600. I realize that is low, but will they disconsider all my other achievements and not even read what will be a spectacular personal stament simply because my score is so low. I am an international student, but from an English speaking country/background, planning to apply for a Phd in Marketing (behavioural). Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregc1213 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Quick answer is yes - conventional thought is they use GMAT score as a first level cut metric, so they sort the scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsaylors Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Let's be honest Hopefull, if you can't get better than a 600 on your GMAT then you probably won't survive a top school anyway; I don't remember your focus, but for a 600ish for finance focus These are safety schools, they may not 'focus' on finance, but if you go to the web-page you may find that you will still recive the training required to teach at an AACSB accredited university. Missouri-St. Louis, University of, College of Business Administration St. Louis, MO North Texas, University of, College of Business Denton, TX Texas A&M Int'l University, College of Business Administration Laredo, TX Texas at El Paso, University of, College of Business Administration El Paso, TX Texas-Pan American, University of, College of Business Administration Edinburg, TX Toledo, University of, College of Business Administration Toledo, OH Here are the "fit" schools for you: Cleveland State University, Nance College of Business Administration Louisiana Tech University, College of Business Mississippi State University, College of Business Here are the "reach" schools for you: Binghamton, State University of New York, School of Management Binghamton, NY Connecticut, University of, School of Business Storrs, CT Florida Atlantic University, College of Business Boca Raton, FL Florida Int'l University, College of Business Administration Miami, FL Florida State University, College of Business Tallahassee, FL Kent State University, College of Business Administration and Graduate School of Management Kent, OH Memphis, University of, Fogelman College of Business and Economics Memphis, TN Mississippi, University of, School of Business Administration University, MS North Carolina at Charlotte, University of, Belk College of Business Charlotte, NC Old Dominion University, College of Business and Public Administration Norfolk, VA Texas at Arlington, University of, College of Business Administration Arlington, TX Texas Tech University, Jerry S. Rawls College of Business Administration Lubbock, TX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopefulphd123 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Ok, thanks. I wasn't even thinking of Finance, numbers are the problem. My focus is behavioural Marketing. I think it will be best to perhaps take time to study for the GRE instead as it is less math oriented. I got a perfect score on the essay section of the GMAT but maybe that doesn't really matter if the numerical score is low. Thanks for your responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwendoline Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I wish I could do well in GMAT verbal. I have not studied maths for many years, but I still coud get 47. Yet, I have had no luck in Verbal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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