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    @ Shankha: Thanks for sharing the name. This is indeed a difficult choice to make. Further my views are constrained by lack of first-hand knowledge of Marketing (CB) area. Please take that into account too.

    ISB

    1- Well known brand name - You will easily get placed in one of the IIMs after PhD.
    2- Mostly US trained faculty (including visiting faculty) - You will have more opportunities to learn the publication game.
    3- INSEAD connection / visitng faculty - good opportunity for international networking; you might be able get one/two of these senior profs as referees and/or committtee members.
    4- Cracking a T50 international school would be difficult. But if you can manage atleast one A publication (almost a norm in CB), a reasonable pipeline and are able to do strong networking, I won't be surprised if you manage a good T100 school. Another route, if you want to aim higher, might be to use your connections and land a postdoc at a T10 school. Even raesonable productivity will make you more saleable after that.

    The "other" school

    1- Again, Well known brand name - You will easily get placed in one of the IIMs after PhD.
    2- Mostly European faculty - You will have very limited opportunities to learn the publication game.
    3- European Brand - good opportunity for regional networking.
    4- Cracking a T50 international school would be very difficult. But if you can manage atleast couple of decent publications, a reasonable pipeline and are able to do strong networking, I think you will land a job at one of the good European schools (barring INSEAD/LBS). Again, if you want to aim higher, you might want to land a postdoc at a T10 school. Even raesonable productivity will make you more saleable globally after that.

    Conclusion: Irrespective of the school, you will have good career opportunities. The other school will definitely get you a job in Europe. ISB can "potentially" prepare you for the US market as well. Top universities in Singapore (NUS/NTU/SMU) are pretty competitive and I don't think any of the two options will make any difference to your chances there.

    All the best!

    @Bloomsbury: I can tell you about an Asst. Profs compensation (all INR). He earns app. 2.5mn/Year, including salary and 4 weeks/year consulting/training. Other perks include: research fund (app. 100k), two international conferences, housing, medical benefits etc. He doesn't care about the publication game and publishes in areas of his interest (economic development; entrepreneurship; energy markets). He is confrmed (tenured) and has job for life. I have also been told that several profs earn upto 5mn. Overall, sounds like a good deal to me.

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    I agree with Indus, a T100 would always be reachable but you need to be ready to do much more teaching. The fact of being the first student is definitely something to consider in favor of ISB. On the other side, doing your PhD in your home country is not necessarily a good signal (it's my case, and it discounts my profile a lot in some places).

    Thank you Indus and TraderJoe: Well I'm nicely surprised by the salaries at IIM. I have also been told that non Indian people had more difficulties to access consulting opportunities. I don't know how true this is. And I also don't know how open are these jobs for non Indian.

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    @indus

    Thanks for your inputs. The other school also has some US trained profs who have published in top4 journals. But yeah, ISB looks better on the publication front.

    Also, the fact that i have never moved out of my home country is something that is making me think a lot about europe.

    @bloomsbury
    If i am correct, there is a cap on how much IIMs can pay to a foreign faculty and it is not attractive. Also foreign nationals have restrictions on what work they can take up.

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    @Shankha:

    "the fact that i have never moved out of my home country is something that is making me think a lot about europe".

    This end can be achieved from both the places. Even at ISB you will have opportunities to stay for considerable duration at INSEAD. You can always use some of their connections and spend 4th/5th year as a "visiting student" at one of the top schools. But yes, this can be a personal reason.

    You indeed have a difficult choice to make. All the best!

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