Profile: Can I Have Some Objective Judgements Please

[desimba]

It's no point getting into an argument about whether a 3-year degree program is valid or not and how highly it is regarded other than to point out that of the faculty members at universities in the US, there is not one that I know of or have read of who has a 3-year degree from India. But I do know of many who have 4-year degrees. Try looking for a counter example but I am afraid it will be a tall order. At the end of the day, you may also consider that the people on this board are ppl. who are decently aware of what it means to get a PhD in Business and you can see the misgivings/ misconceptions several of them have had about the 3 year degree program.

Nevertheless wish you the best,
SB

[Ancalagon The Black]

desimba:

On the contrary, there are quite a few in the Ivy League colleges who have a 3 year degree from India but also did a masters before applying for a second masters and subsequently a PhD. I can point you to the appropriate links if you like... I think that that route is a waste of time.

And obviously, most faculty members don't because earlier the
situation was different. Hence, only 4 year degree holders like engineers could get through. Look through the business schools, 95% of Indian origin faculty holders are engineers. Is there a definitive conclusion? Yes.

The rules have changed now.

[asa_sl]

Originally Posted by Ancalagon The Black

desimba:


And obviously, most faculty members don't because earlier the
situation was different. Hence, only 4 year degree holders like engineers could get through. Look through the business schools, 95% of Indian origin faculty holders are engineers. Is there a definitive conclusion? Yes.

The rules have changed now.

yeah i think thats because IIT engineers are the best of the best in india.

out of topic but what about indian medical education and law education?
Is it very difficult to be a doctor or lawyer? or not much difficult as IIT qualified engineers?

[Ancalagon The Black]

Originally Posted by asa_sl

yeah i think thats because IIT engineers are the best of the best in india.

out of topic but what about indian medical education and law education?
Is it very difficult to be a doctor or lawyer? or not much difficult as IIT qualified engineers?

True, but restricting oneself to only IIT engineers is too shortsighted. Rather, say that it was true for all Indian engineers... simply because of the 4 year degree.

Also, IIT only teaches engineering and some physical sciences. There are other very good institutions for business, social sciences, arts, humanities etc.

It is actually far more difficult to be a lawyer or a doctor from a good institution from India. For instance, NLS, the top law schools take only 35 students a year from a pool rivalling that of the IITs and the top medical schools like AIIMS, CMC, JIPMER - they also take similar students from a huge applicant pool.

But the end result is better for those guys because they always earn more than any engineer or any average business school graduate !!

[asa_sl]

Originally Posted by Ancalagon The Black

True, but restricting oneself to only IIT engineers is too shortsighted. Rather, say that it was true for all Indian engineers... simply because of the 4 year degree.

Also, IIT only teaches engineering and some physical sciences. There are other very good institutions for business, social sciences, arts, humanities etc.

It is actually far more difficult to be a lawyer or a doctor from a good institution from India. For instance, NLS, the top law schools take only 35 students a year from a pool rivalling that of the IITs and the top medical schools like AIIMS, CMC, JIPMER - they also take similar students from a huge applicant pool.

But the end result is better for those guys because they always earn more than any engineer or any average business school graduate !!

so in the end lawyers and doctors earn much more than IIT engineers?
but why then IITs are more famous in internationally. I thought that law and medical proffession are not much highly earnable proffesions.
so I was wrong right?

[Ancalagon The Black]

I would say you were... On an average, and its true in most countries, lawyers and doctors always earn more than engineers or b school graduates... look at the US for that matter... same thing...

IIT is a brand and is world renowned in education. Thats pretty much it. I don't think that being an IIT alumni means that someone is much better in academics than another person... its a wrong impression...

[doubtful]

let my tell you my opinion.

1) the curriculum is very good
2) you are very young and I think talented, the only concern is that you lack a little bit of academic experience in terms of time devoted to FULL TIME RESEARCH.

my advice is the following:

if you have the money could u afford to come to the US for a MS? with your background I guess U can be admitted in a lot of excellent places. IT is gonna take you 2 years to complete the master with the research thesis requirement.

After these 2 years you are gonna be 24-5, with an American Degree, more research experience and potentially important LOR. If you will still feel you HAVE TO take a Phd in Business, or related field, you are still in time and you could waive some of the core classes that you have taken during the master.

[Ancalagon The Black]

doubtful:

Thanks for the analysis.

Unfortunately, I don't have any money. So, the university has to support me. And, I want to get into a full time PhD program straight away. I will apply for Fall 2008. Lets see what happens... I will keep this forum informed....

[doubtful]

Believe me I am almost 29... I am playing my game, now or never, these months for fall 2009... so I somehow envy you

[Ancalagon The Black]

Yeah, I somehow wish I had another year in hand... I could do so many things in that one year but no, no money and no time at hand... gotta give it my best shot... its now or never...

PS: My latest semester results just came out yesterday and I have moved up from rank 4 to rank 1 with an overall percentage of 77.25%. That might help !!