Oxford sees the MPhil as equivalent to the 2 first years of the US PhD. The first one is clearly not so, especially macro. It has the added benefit that if you decide to back out of the PhD you have an extremely marketable degree in your hands.
I was wondering if someone help me to compare M2 EcoMath at Toulouse with M.Phil. at Oxford, disregarding the cost of each program.
Which one is a better choice for using as a stepping stone to US PhDs? In TM, somebody believes Oxford has a good placement in top 10, but the others don't think so. Which one is more credible? Does anybody have any information about the placement of M.Phil program in recent years?
It seems that M2 EcoMath has not a good placement.
Structure of Program:
Here, somebody from Oxford have said that the program is not well designed, most of the syllabus should be covered by the students. Does anything has been changed in recent years? What about the technical level of the first year?
As I am in Toulouse now, I have some idea about the program. So I need more information from Oxford.
How approachable are the professors at Oxford?
Of course, there are other parameters like quality of life or the duration of the programs. But there is no doubt about them! So I will be thankful to anybody who help me to understand which one is a better choice.
Last edited by economiste; 03-20-2010 at 12:02 AM.
Is anybody here from Oxford, to help us get a better sense of the program?
I know that people from Toulouse ecomath have gone to very top economics and finance PhDs and also know that some of their PhD graduates obtained Top 10 jobs in economics as well as finance. I have not seen much Oxford's recent graduates in top programs (which, of course, is a rather subjective measure).
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I think Oxford is the much better choice if you want to go to the US. Most Tolouse students do their PhD at Tolouse. However, I think it's right that Oxford has a great name, but the program in Tolouse might be better. And Oxford is a big name if you don't want to go to academics...
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Thanks a lot Jobu. I'm at Toulouse now (M1). I also think that M2 is more solid than the first year of Oxford, but the problem is with the second year. In Toulouse, there is neither any advanced course nor field course in the second year, most of your coursework will be done in M2. However, there are advanced courses and some filed ones at Oxford. I do not know about the level of the second year at Oxford, but I guess it is in a higher level than what is done in M2. I was wondering if you or somebody else give me some information about the level of courses in the second year of MPhil program.
For finance: I think (although I am not 100% sure, if you are at Toulouse now you can ask there) that at least one graduate is currently in the Duke's finance PhD program (Duke is a solid top 10 school in finance) and another one at Michigan (Michigan is also a solid top 10 finance program). Unfortunately they do not have their CVs online and I am not sure which line (finm or ecomath, M1 or M2) they graduated. For PhD graduates you can check, for instance, Plantin at LBS (borderline top 10 in finance), Sraer at Bendheim, Buti at Rotman, and Bouvard at McGill (top 50 in finance). I am not that well informed about economics but I think that Pavan at Northwestern economics graduated from Toulouse.
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