joaoneto Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I would like to get your views about Tinbergen. I was accepted by UCLA (fellowship) and Michigan (TAship). Do you think Tinbergen is as competitive as these schools? I do not know how should I interpret the fact that Tinbergen placed many students on postdoctoral positions (Pompeu, Oxford, LSE). Maybe they spend less time to conclude the PhD and need more time to be equivalent to a typical American PhD. Anyway, I do not know how Tinbergen students place after their postdoctoral positions. Because Tinbergen is not ranked and because I am not able to perfectly interpret their placement, I would like to get your views about Tinbergen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeo Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I'm really interested in the answers as well. I just wanted to say that placing into post-docs is very common (we could say it is the norm) in Europe. I haven't really been able to figure out why that is though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR14 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I would argue Tinbergen is dominated academically by the other 2 options.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwing Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I am also interested in understanding the quality of Tinbergen. How are the placements of Tinbergen students after their post-doc? I was admitted for some top 20 programs and I strongly considered Tinbergen, but I declined it because I did not know how to compare the program with the American ones. Anyway, some of its students made great comments about the place and the work environment (in fact, Judith and Massimo looked to be very friendly; if the faculty looks like them, so I believe the work environment must be pretty good). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsartre Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'd go with UCLA for some tracks and Michigan for others. Michigan or UCLA are better programs than Tinbergen for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pch Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 I'd go with UCLA for some tracks and Michigan for others. Michigan or UCLA are better programs than Tinbergen for sure. Then again, Amsterdam is a much nicer place to be than LA or Ann Arbor. And the money is good too. I think for things like Financial Economics and perhaps Development Tinbergen dominates UCLA and Michigan, but generally I agree that UCLA and Michigan are stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsartre Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Then again, Amsterdam is a much nicer place to be than LA or Ann Arbor. And the money is good too. I think for things like Financial Economics and perhaps Development Tinbergen dominates UCLA and Michigan, but generally I agree that UCLA and Michigan are stronger. LA might be better than Amsterdam in some places, but I've heard that the two main universities there for Econ PHDs aren't located in the greatest of neigborhoods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Econhead Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 LA might be better than Amsterdam in some places, but I've heard that the two main universities there for Econ PHDs aren't located in the greatest of neigborhoods. If people took this into consideration I doubt there would be much heterogeneity in terms students admitted to the same departments. There are a LOT of programs that exist in or on the periphery of absolutely terrible neighborhoods. In fact, I think half or more of the programs I applied for fell into this category. I'm not trying to be rude, but deciding where to go based on this is relatively (or extremely) silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeo Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 If people took this into consideration I doubt there would be much heterogeneity in terms students admitted to the same departments. There are a LOT of programs that exist in or on the periphery of absolutely terrible neighborhoods. In fact, I think half or more of the programs I applied for fell into this category. I'm not trying to be rude, but deciding where to go based on this is relatively (or extremely) silly. Also, what's a nice place to live is extremely subjective. So it really depends on OP's preferences whether Amsterdam > LA and Ann Arbor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwing Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Ok, but what about the post doc positions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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