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    I got 167 then retook to get 170. I don't think it made my profile any better tbh. I guess if you have time & money and are certain about getting better score, then go ahead. Just so you know, I know someone who got into top 5 Econ PhD program with the exact same GRE as your current score. Imho, 167 quant is enough to be above the cutoff, and as long as you are above 50 pctile for verbal and writing, you should be fine.

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    I see. Thanks for your input jcc.

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    I took the GRE once and scored 167Q. I never took it again. I applied mainly to top 15, and was accepted at UCLA only and wait-listed at UCSD. I agree with the general advice that if its basically zero cost to you (ie you have the money and don't need to study or have plenty of time to study) then re-take. If not, don't worry about it, particularly if your goal is 15-40 not top 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laborsabre View Post
    I took the GRE once and scored 167Q. I never took it again. I applied mainly to top 15, and was accepted at UCLA only and wait-listed at UCSD. I agree with the general advice that if its basically zero cost to you (ie you have the money and don't need to study or have plenty of time to study) then re-take. If not, don't worry about it, particularly if your goal is 15-40 not top 15.
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    I wouldn't worry about it -- you meet the cutoff for most top 10 schools (perhaps it wouldn't be sufficient only for Harvard and MIT). I know people who've gotten admitted into top 5's with the same quant score or a lower one than yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathenomics View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but your example seems to suggest that higher verbal scores provide some indication of intelligence. If so, is there a reason why econ adcoms don't interpret verbal scores as containing some signals of intelligence? Is it because these signals are too weak compared to other stronger signals you can send through math classes, grades, rec letters, etc?
    Yes, I think pure math classes are a much more accurate signal of intelligence than verbal scores, and math classes are already used in admissions as a proxy for IQ.

    If admissions criteria were based solely on preparation for graduate econ research, then undergrad econometrics rather than real analysis would probably be the most important course. But undergrad econometrics is not reliable for signaling intelligence.

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    I can tell you that we do use verbal scores in admissions decisions, especially for international students.

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    I can tell you that we do use verbal scores in admissions decisions, especially for international students.
    Thanks for you input tbe. By "we", are you implying that you are in the admission committee at some school?
    And I also have heard that schools would like to see satisfactory scores on verbal from international applicants; that being said, is 155 not "satisfactory"?

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    Based on my recent score report, 167Q is the 91st percentile (170Q is the 96th percentile). Stanford’s website says “If you do not score in at least the 92nd percentile on the quantitative section, we recommend that you re-take the exam and try to improve your score”

    My reading of this info is that if you’re aiming for the top 5 programs and you still have time before applications are due, it may make sense to retake, especially since you only have to send in your best score.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathenomics View Post
    Based on my recent score report, 167Q is the 91st percentile (170Q is the 96th percentile). Stanford’s website says “If you do not score in at least the 92nd percentile on the quantitative section, we recommend that you re-take the exam and try to improve your score”

    My reading of this info is that if you’re aiming for the top 5 programs and you still have time before applications are due, it may make sense to retake, especially since you only have to send in your best score.
    Nope. Ignore Stanford's website. I know for a fact that they've admitted students below the 85th percentile in GRE Quant. I know for a fact that the GRE isn't even used for faculty evaluations in at least one top 5 program (i.e. it's not presented in the information sheet sent to faculty). Use your common sense: The GRE exam is just not that big of a deal, the math tested is almost completely irrelevant, and the idea that any top 5 school would even have a cut-off is presumptuous. Any candidate who's competitive for top 5 programs will have *much* clearer signals of quantitative ability elsewhere in their profile.

    University admissions websites are often written by admins or assistants who don't have a role in departmental admissions. "score in ...x percentile" isn't even a well-defined statement for discrete scores; 167 spans 92th to 95th.

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