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USeconphd · 2007 February 8th, 07:15 AM

Hello, everyone,

This is my first post here. Actually, I have 2 questions. And I very appreciate if any of you would answer it.

1) Is Clemson University in SC a well-respected school?
I was offered an admission with aid of 15k, RA 1st year+ TA onwards. My profile is below.

2) What should I reply to the econ department if I am still waiting for the results from other higher ranked schools like in the 30~40s, because they asked me to reply them by mid Feb? (BTW, is that fair?)

What would happen if I sign the assistantship contract first and change minds later say by Mid March? Is it legally binding or more like a moral issue than a legal one?

My background:

GRE: V 95%, Q 94%
MA Econ (US tier 2, NRC 80s) GPA 4.0,
BA Econ (US tier 3, NRC 80s) GPA 3.8

Econ: Macro and Micro I and II, Metrics I, II, Math Econ (All As)
STAT: Math Stat, Intro to Prob, Stochastic Process. (All As)
MATH: Cal I, II, Linear Algebra, Advanced Cal (All As)
TA for 3 years (13 econ courses)

Admission Results:

Indiana
UVA
UNC
Maryland, AREC
Maryland, regular
Iowa
Georgetown
NCSU (Admitted 1/24, $ - Early March)
Colorado
Rice
ND
Buffalo
SMU (Admitted last year w/o $)
UIC (Admitted last year w/o $)
American (Admitted 11/14/2006, $ -Decisions later)
Clemson (Admitted w/ 15k, 12/2006)

chintaM · 2007 February 8th, 08:21 AM

I think you should wait. Clemson is unfair in asking for decision by mid Feb, and I think you have a good shot at all the schools above. Clemson is as reputed as NCSU, UVA, UMaryland etc, and I think you have a good chance of being admitted there.

kartelite · 2007 February 8th, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chintaM

I think you should wait. Clemson is unfair in asking for decision by mid Feb, and I think you have a good shot at all the schools above. Clemson is as reputed as NCSU, UVA, UMaryland etc, and I think you have a good chance of being admitted there.

Woah woah. Clemson is nowhere near the same league as UVA, Maryland, and I don't know what you mean by "etc." NCSU is maybe comparable, but Virginia and MD no way. I don't think they should be able to force a reply by mid-February, according to the Council's agreement.

With your profile I would expects admits from some better schools.

kartelite · 2007 February 8th, 02:40 PM

Okay, in this year's US News and World Report, Maryland is ranked #21, Virginia #27, NCSU #48, and Clemson isn't even on the list of 56 schools.

And I checked the Econphd.net rankings, which I think are a very poor set, but in this case they do agree. Maryland #17, Virginia #53, NCSU #90, and Clemson...hold on........wait for it...........drum roll please..........2.....2.....0!

Again, to the OP, you have a very strong profile, with the one weakness being prestige of your undergrad institution (out of your control). I would bet heavily you get into some better schools with aid packages.

bravedreamji · 2007 February 8th, 03:35 PM

Why Clemson? OMG..I apply for MA in that school whereas my profile is much...much lower than yours. Early reply is illegal, but it does happens in some universities which are short of excllent(even poor）students. I hear from another forum saying that Clemson is badly in short of students. You would definitely be the top there!

chintaM · 2007 February 8th, 05:04 PM

I meant to write Clemson is "NOT" as reputed as .. but ended up writing as reputed as. Sorry for those folks who love UMD, UVA , NCState etc.

USeconphd · 2007 February 8th, 05:28 PM

Re: Kartelite. As far as I know, the Council's agreement (4.15) only applies to those who hold admissions without financial rewards. And most schools do ask their funded students to make early commitments by 3.15/late March.

Yeah, there is no doubt that Clemson is the lowest ranked school on my list in terms of nationwide academic reputation and location. With a degree from Clemson, one can ONLY expect to find a NONacademic job locally given that it is “the # 1” in the state of SC; am I correct?

Karina 07 · 2007 February 8th, 06:45 PM

The #1 in SC thing isn't saying much. My boyfriend is from SC, and I have lived with him there for a while. Stay out of SC at all costs :P. And you know, he would say that, too!! He calls it the "armpit" of the south, I don't know why, but somehow that is supposed to mean that it has the worst education of any of the south... and the south isn't known for its education, either, with notable exceptions. Don't kill the messenger -- but that is what he would say.

Prometheus_Econ · 2007 February 8th, 06:48 PM

Where did you get that information about having to make a decision by March 15 if you get funding?!? I think that's bogus. Look at this document.

http://www.cgsnet.org/portals/0/pdf/...onJune2005.pdf

"Students are under no obligation to respond to offers of financial aid prior to April 15; earlier deadlines for students violate the intent of this Resolution." And if you look at the list of universities, Clemson is also included. So they have no reason to pressuring you into accepting an earlier deadline. Of course, I don't know if a resolution is legally binding, but even if not, an email to the council mentioning the case would probably change Clemson's mind...

chintaM · 2007 February 8th, 07:22 PM

As they say, there is no point of bringing south to the table. They are loyal to no agreement; No treaty is binding for them

In jest.

2007 February 8th, 07:15 AM	#1 (permalink)
USeconphd Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15	Clemson Univ. worth attending? Hello, everyone, This is my first post here. Actually, I have 2 questions. And I very appreciate if any of you would answer it. 1) Is Clemson University in SC a well-respected school? I was offered an admission with aid of 15k, RA 1st year+ TA onwards. My profile is below. 2) What should I reply to the econ department if I am still waiting for the results from other higher ranked schools like in the 30~40s, because they asked me to reply them by mid Feb? (BTW, is that fair?) What would happen if I sign the assistantship contract first and change minds later say by Mid March? Is it legally binding or more like a moral issue than a legal one? My background: GRE: V 95%, Q 94% MA Econ (US tier 2, NRC 80s) GPA 4.0, BA Econ (US tier 3, NRC 80s) GPA 3.8 Econ: Macro and Micro I and II, Metrics I, II, Math Econ (All As) STAT: Math Stat, Intro to Prob, Stochastic Process. (All As) MATH: Cal I, II, Linear Algebra, Advanced Cal (All As) TA for 3 years (13 econ courses) Admission Results: Indiana UVA UNC Maryland, AREC Maryland, regular Iowa Georgetown NCSU (Admitted 1/24, $ - Early March) Colorado Rice ND Buffalo SMU (Admitted last year w/o $) UIC (Admitted last year w/o $) American (Admitted 11/14/2006, $ -Decisions later) Clemson (Admitted w/ 15k, 12/2006)

2007 February 8th, 05:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
USeconphd Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 15	Thank you all for the inputs and suggestions! Re: Kartelite. As far as I know, the Council's agreement (4.15) only applies to those who hold admissions without financial rewards. And most schools do ask their funded students to make early commitments by 3.15/late March. Yeah, there is no doubt that Clemson is the lowest ranked school on my list in terms of nationwide academic reputation and location. With a degree from Clemson, one can ONLY expect to find a NONacademic job locally given that it is “the # 1” in the state of SC; am I correct?

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2007 February 8th, 08:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
chintaM I JUST got here. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	I think you should wait. Clemson is unfair in asking for decision by mid Feb, and I think you have a good shot at all the schools above. Clemson is as reputed as NCSU, UVA, UMaryland etc, and I think you have a good chance of being admitted there.

2007 February 8th, 02:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
kartelite Within my grasp! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Virginia/NC Posts: 437	Okay, in this year's US News and World Report, Maryland is ranked #21, Virginia #27, NCSU #48, and Clemson isn't even on the list of 56 schools. And I checked the Econphd.net rankings, which I think are a very poor set, but in this case they do agree. Maryland #17, Virginia #53, NCSU #90, and Clemson...hold on........wait for it...........drum roll please..........2.....2.....0! Again, to the OP, you have a very strong profile, with the one weakness being prestige of your undergrad institution (out of your control). I would bet heavily you get into some better schools with aid packages.

2007 February 8th, 03:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
bravedreamji Eager! Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 46	Why Clemson? OMG..I apply for MA in that school whereas my profile is much...much lower than yours. Early reply is illegal, but it does happens in some universities which are short of excllent(even poor）students. I hear from another forum saying that Clemson is badly in short of students. You would definitely be the top there!

2007 February 8th, 05:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
chintaM I JUST got here. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	I meant to write Clemson is "NOT" as reputed as .. but ended up writing as reputed as. Sorry for those folks who love UMD, UVA , NCState etc.

2007 February 8th, 06:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
Karina 07 TestMagic Guru-in-Training Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 781	The #1 in SC thing isn't saying much. My boyfriend is from SC, and I have lived with him there for a while. Stay out of SC at all costs :P. And you know, he would say that, too!! He calls it the "armpit" of the south, I don't know why, but somehow that is supposed to mean that it has the worst education of any of the south... and the south isn't known for its education, either, with notable exceptions. Don't kill the messenger -- but that is what he would say.

2007 February 8th, 06:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Prometheus_Econ Within my grasp! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NYC, NY Posts: 469	Where did you get that information about having to make a decision by March 15 if you get funding?!? I think that's bogus. Look at this document. http://www.cgsnet.org/portals/0/pdf/...onJune2005.pdf "Students are under no obligation to respond to offers of financial aid prior to April 15; earlier deadlines for students violate the intent of this Resolution." And if you look at the list of universities, Clemson is also included. So they have no reason to pressuring you into accepting an earlier deadline. Of course, I don't know if a resolution is legally binding, but even if not, an email to the council mentioning the case would probably change Clemson's mind...

2007 February 8th, 07:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
chintaM I JUST got here. Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29	As they say, there is no point of bringing south to the table. They are loyal to no agreement; No treaty is binding for them In jest.

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