no job placement outcome listed

[needeconhelp]

Originally Posted by econphilomath

What about Harvard? They have a couple of people doing education economics and some other related applied work? MIT has the poverty action lab which works on impact evaluation and experimental design.

Haven't heard much about the other universities you mentioned regarding your interests. I still think that regarding placements, once your at the top ranked schools it doesn't really matter on the margin.

Maybe you should repost your profile at the new roll call post so we can organize a thread with every TMer whos applying.

I will post my profile at the new roll call. BTW, TMer??

I am thinking about applying to either Harvard or MIT. However, I don't know if my profile it strong enough for any of the two.

[Nalfien]

EconWiki has the placement lists of some schools that only give them to people who've been admitted to the program. Thanks your fellow TM'ers who got into those places and shared:

http://www.econspace.org/wiki/index....USA_and_Canada

[shootermcgavin7]

Reactor, is there any way we could get a sticky about the EconWiki site? I didn't know it existed and I could envision it becoming a valuable resource, much like econphd.net is/was, perhaps even more so as econphd was contingent on a single very busy person updating it.

[Antichron]

Originally Posted by shootermcgavin7

Reactor, is there any way we could get a sticky about the EconWiki site? I didn't know it existed and I could envision it becoming a valuable resource, much like econphd.net is/was, perhaps even more so as econphd was contingent on a single very busy person updating it.

I second that motion.

[mamokillo]

Originally Posted by asquare

You can download a list of Michigan's placements through 2004 or so here. The list doesn't include recent years; last year was an especially good year for Michigan with Greg Lewis going to Harvard, Pat Kline to Yale, and Yuriy Gorodnochenko to Berkeley. Other placements last year included U of Toronto, William and Mary, and a post doc at Stanford.

So many grads per year ... what is up with the business programs ... accepting 0-5 and graduating even less?

[GymShorts]

Originally Posted by Antichron

I second that motion.

Since it has not become sticky yet, I shall third that motion.

[jlist]

Hi Needeconhelp: I believe that our aggregate placements are posted on the website--under FAQ (where it also says that over 80% of matriculants in the past 10 years pass qualifiers within 2 years; note that conditional on actually taking the exams, over 85% of students pass all 3 exams---not bad for a department that is notorious for flunking everyone, huh, phdseeker?

Back to business.....
What kinds of jobs do your students get after graduation?
In recent years, about 51% of our graduates have taken jobs in academic institutions, including universities and colleges throughout the world; about 27% have taken jobs in private-sector firms, including banks, investment houses, and consulting firms; about 22% have taken jobs in government financial and regulatory institutions, including the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve system, and central banks from other countries; and about 1% went on to further study, such as law school. Among those who took academic jobs, about 28% took their first jobs at universities with the top 20 economics departments in the United States (according to a *recent ranking*).

*link to http://ideas.repec.org/p/lec/leecon/01-8.html for 'Pantelis Kalaitzidakis, Theofanis Mamuneas, Thanasis Stengos (2001).

Best,
John

[econcurious]

Originally Posted by jlist

Hi Needeconhelp: I believe that our aggregate placements are posted on the website--under FAQ (where it also says that over 80% of matriculants in the past 10 years pass qualifiers within 2 years; note that conditional on actually taking the exams, over 85% of students pass all 3 exams---not bad for a department that is notorious for flunking everyone, huh, phdseeker?

Back to business.....
What kinds of jobs do your students get after graduation?
In recent years, about 51% of our graduates have taken jobs in academic institutions, including universities and colleges throughout the world; about 27% have taken jobs in private-sector firms, including banks, investment houses, and consulting firms; about 22% have taken jobs in government financial and regulatory institutions, including the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Federal Reserve system, and central banks from other countries; and about 1% went on to further study, such as law school. Among those who took academic jobs, about 28% took their first jobs at universities with the top 20 economics departments in the United States (according to a *recent ranking*).

*link to http://ideas.repec.org/p/lec/leecon/01-8.html for 'Pantelis Kalaitzidakis, Theofanis Mamuneas, Thanasis Stengos (2001).

Best,
John

Yet, the quality of academic placements from UChicago is not that good, barely comparable to top 10-15 schools... And although John List seems like a friendly professor, my friend who is doing his PhD in econ at UChicago complains non-stop that most of the faculty treat the students there rather badly...

[jlist]

Dear Econcurious: I am sorry to hear that your friend is not having fun here at Chicago. Please let this person know that s/he can always come and talk to me about research or their other issues.

On to placements. I would be shocked if your statement "the quality of academic placements from UChicago is not that good, barely comparable to top 10-15 schools" is correct. I have summarized our statistics very clearly in my post--with data from 1994-present to back those facts.

If you truly believe that the top 10-15 schools are placing 28% of their academic placements in top 20 schools, then you should write a paper about the large number of missing professors in the top 20 schools. Maybe the JPE would even be interested in publishing this work (see Oster's recent JPE work on missing children for a paper to cite in your introduction).

In sum, if you are going to make such claims, then I hope that you can move beyond anecdotes and stories and send the group your data. Everything that I have looked at would suggest that you are wrong (and it is not easy to figure out other school's placement rates, but I have tried).

Of course, my mind can be changed with data--maybe I am wrong. I look forward to receiving the data behind which you are making your inference.

Best,
John

[econphilomath]

Originally Posted by econcurious

Yet, the quality of academic placements from UChicago is not that good, barely comparable to top 10-15 schools... And although John List seems like a friendly professor, my friend who is doing his PhD in econ at UChicago complains non-stop that most of the faculty treat the students there rather badly...

So if anecdotal evidence is of any use I can add three data points...I know 3 guys at diffrent stages of the phd program and all have expressed very strong feelings of loyalty and satisfaction with the program at Chicago.

Some empirical evidence on rankings by placemeent can be seen here:http://www.ires.ucl.ac.be/DP/IRES_DP/2005-41.pdf and Chicago comes in 5th.