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    How Selection Is Been Done

    Ok guys!For a long time I wanted to post that. Let us discuss how selections are been done in several schools.Those include UCLA,Princeton,Harvard ,Columbia, NYU, Marylaland ,UCI, and many others....mostly about the top 20!
    I have know many academics from those schools and by asking them I understood the following.My sources:
    UCLA Roger Farmer
    Columbia ;Mike Woodford
    Princeton:Lars Svensson
    Mayraland:Enrique Mendoza
    UCI Fabio Milani
    Harvard :Alberto Alesina

    It was rely funny when talking about this with Mike(Woodford) I used a term largely used among Central Bank Economists :"The Segrets of the Temple"!!!

    I will proceed with an example as it will be more comprehensive. Suppose we have 800 applicants as it happens frequently to be the case in the top 10

    The first thing they look is the Quantitative GRE score!If you are below a certain cut off standard (UCB states if 760 test should be retaken) then you are OUT ! No one will ever see your complete file even if you have excellent records and LORs
    Suppose now we are left with 200 applicants. Now is time for the most important thing;THE REFERENCE LETTER
    As Roger Farmer told me he first looks at the NAME and he asks him self: Do I know him?Then of course he reads it.If it is a good letter you 're still in the game.Other wise........Note that if among your referees you have only one that is well know then they will put a part the other letters and you will end up with one letter in your file:Here is the question;From who do you ask the letters?
    At stage 3 now we are left with only 100 applicants.Life is more easy now!
    Now they look at the file.I you already have a Masters then you have an advantage ....except from the case you come from a US university or a very good undergraduate program.
    Stage 4 candidates now are say 50.We want to admit 25 plus a waiting-listed, ok? What comes next?A direct email/phone call to the referee to ask additional information :Those could be the character,if the things stated in the LOR are true,grades and other.
    S/he replies and that's it.Is done!

    To sum up as both Mendoza and Milani told me the MOST important thing is the LETTER!!!!!!This is what makes you admitted or rejected!

    So now you know everything!
    Last edited by italos; 03-10-2008 at 05:38 PM. Reason: misstyping

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    That's what I figured.

    I guess every school that admitted me saw my best letter first or something
    "Since it befalls, that in most instances
    Current opinion leans to false: and then
    Affection bends the judgment to her ply."

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    Pretty much what I thought as well. However, from what we were told in a phd application information session, they don't really care how famous the guy is, as long as he/she did a good phd. For instance, my certain LOR writer is a Harvard PhD, as well as a potential one. Although they're quite unknown, they both know what it takes to do a top PhD, as so are quite credible

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    It surprises me that you keep misspelling Enrique Mendoza's name. I hope you don't address him as Professor Mentoza

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    do you actually know those guys? if so i'm guessing youre related to some hotshot?
    in: brown, boston u
    out: duke, mich, wisc, ucla

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Keen View Post
    It surprises me that you keep misspelling Enrique Mendoza's name. I hope you don't address him as Professor Mentoza
    It was just a mistyping mistake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by italos View Post
    It was just a mistyping mistake!
    Then you made the same mistake on another thread. That's what drew my attention.

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    I heard a type of selection like this... However, I heard that firstly they look GRE Quant and Math, Econ classes...

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    It seems to me that everything on your CV is a necessary condition for entry to the top ten but not sufficient. Especially for internationals and at the top 5. The LOR is by far the most important aspect. However, it is non trivial to get somebody credible to stick his/her neck out for you, but then again getting a chance to show your stuff to such a person is in some way determined by luck.

    Not sure where italos is hanging out on the weekends but hes had more top economist face time than I expect to get during my entire phd.
    gone for comps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by econphilomath View Post
    It seems to me that everything on your CV is a necessary condition for entry to the top ten but not sufficient. Especially for internationals and at the top 5. The LOR is by far the most important aspect. However, it is non trivial to get somebody credible to stick his/her neck out for you, but then again getting a chance to show your stuff to such a person is in some way determined by luck.

    Not sure where italos is hanging out on the weekends but hes had more top economist face time than I expect to get during my entire phd.
    I agree. All factors are necessary but not sufficient. That being said, a low GRE is generally a fatal issue whereas others can often be overcome through SOP or LOR. I'm talking mainly about poor GPA that was dragged down due to one poor year that can be explained by extenuating circumstances.

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