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Chopov · 04-30-2008, 02:54 PM

Anybody attending UCL Msc.in Economics in fall 2008?

Blondin · 04-30-2008, 05:45 PM

Hi Chopov,

I will be attending the Mphil/PhD. We might have some classes in common during the second term.

miaataro · 05-05-2008, 07:36 AM

I didn't want to start a new thread for my question but I hope this doesn't go too much off-topic. At least you are probably more informed than I am about the graduate studies and admissions in UCL.

So, do you know whether UCL has somekind of a "1+3" scheme (like, for eaxample, in Essex) where it is possible to get accepted to the PhD programme but one has to do a MSc during the first year? Or is it so that one has to apply first to the MSc programme and (assuming that he/she gets accepted) then go through the application process again next year in order to get accepted to the PhD programme?

Thank you for your help!

Blondin · 05-05-2008, 06:49 PM

Hi,

in fact the Mphil/PhD is somehow a 1+3 already: 1 year of courses and 3 years of research minimum before ending your phd. I don't think you can apply for a PhD there starting at the master's level. You will need to already have a master, or apply for the MSc.

Connemara Pony · 05-05-2008, 08:06 PM

I've been accepted to the UCL MSc. It's my backup at the moment though, the offer is conditional on a 2.1 so if I don't get a first that's where I'll be going.

miaataro · 05-05-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Blondin

in fact the Mphil/PhD is somehow a 1+3 already: 1 year of courses and 3 years of research minimum before ending your phd.

I guess that's true so maybe a better way to put this is that I was wondering if UCL has a "1+1+3" scheme or something like that. Anyway, I was hoping that UCL would have had a track with MSc plus a conditional offer to proceed to the PhD programme.

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Originally Posted by Blondin

You will need to already have a master, or apply for the MSc.

My situation is somewhat difficult. I should have two masters (economics + statistics) ready in Finland before I (hopefully) begin my graduate studies abroad. The problem is that I'm not sure whether my two masters are enough for a straight admission to a PhD programme in UK or not. I know that there are at least a couple of Finnish PhD students in UK who have done first a MSc in UK in addition to their master from Finland so this got me wondering.

elcapitano · 05-06-2008, 06:27 AM

I know UCL has ESRC funded places which are 1+3 as a friend of mine is on one. This is the Msc + MPhil/PhD so I imagine they do. It might not be official automatic progression, but typically in the UK if you achieve a distinction in the masters and can find a willing supervisor (often the person who supervises your masters dissertation) then progression is essentially automatic.

This being said, I would be very surprised if your two masters didn't qualify you for direct entry to the MPhil/Phd if your grades are suitably good -get in touch with them anyway though; universities can be funny about foreign qualifications.

miaataro · 05-06-2008, 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcapitano

I know UCL has ESRC funded places which are 1+3 as a friend of mine is on one. This is the Msc + MPhil/PhD so I imagine they do. It might not be official automatic progression, but typically in the UK if you achieve a distinction in the masters and can find a willing supervisor (often the person who supervises your masters dissertation) then progression is essentially automatic.

That's great news! I case someone is wondering, I have no problem with doing a third MSc in UK before PhD studies. I believe it would be good preparation and maybe fill in a couple of blanks. The only problem is that I wouldn't want to go through the nerverecking application process again after the MSc.

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Originally Posted by elcapitano

This being said, I would be very surprised if your two masters didn't qualify you for direct entry to the MPhil/Phd if your grades are suitably good -get in touch with them anyway though; universities can be funny about foreign qualifications.

A BSc from a Finnish university is an entry requirement for MSc programme in UK so this line of reasoning would suggest that a Finnish MSc is an entry requirement for MPhil/PhD programme. But I have a feeling it doesn't neccessarily work this way.

e_o_c · 07-02-2008, 11:49 AM

I'll be doing the M Sc in Economics at UCL too. Has anyone heard anything from the college yet about start dates for the Maths course or fees?

Chopov · 07-02-2008, 07:22 PM

Have you already received the offer letter? Math course is supposed to start on 22nd of September...

04-30-2008, 02:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chopov Eager! Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 45	UCL Msc Anybody attending UCL Msc.in Economics in fall 2008?

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elcapitano Eager! Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 69	I know UCL has ESRC funded places which are 1+3 as a friend of mine is on one. This is the Msc + MPhil/PhD so I imagine they do. It might not be official automatic progression, but typically in the UK if you achieve a distinction in the masters and can find a willing supervisor (often the person who supervises your masters dissertation) then progression is essentially automatic. This being said, I would be very surprised if your two masters didn't qualify you for direct entry to the MPhil/Phd if your grades are suitably good -get in touch with them anyway though; universities can be funny about foreign qualifications. Last edited by elcapitano : 05-06-2008 at 06:35 AM. Reason: accidentally pressed reply

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04-30-2008, 05:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Blondin Eager! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 49	Hi Chopov, I will be attending the Mphil/PhD. We might have some classes in common during the second term.

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miaataro Eager! Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 97	I didn't want to start a new thread for my question but I hope this doesn't go too much off-topic. At least you are probably more informed than I am about the graduate studies and admissions in UCL. So, do you know whether UCL has somekind of a "1+3" scheme (like, for eaxample, in Essex) where it is possible to get accepted to the PhD programme but one has to do a MSc during the first year? Or is it so that one has to apply first to the MSc programme and (assuming that he/she gets accepted) then go through the application process again next year in order to get accepted to the PhD programme? Thank you for your help!

05-05-2008, 06:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
Blondin Eager! Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 49	Hi, in fact the Mphil/PhD is somehow a 1+3 already: 1 year of courses and 3 years of research minimum before ending your phd. I don't think you can apply for a PhD there starting at the master's level. You will need to already have a master, or apply for the MSc.

05-05-2008, 08:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Connemara Pony Eager! Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 49	I've been accepted to the UCL MSc. It's my backup at the moment though, the offer is conditional on a 2.1 so if I don't get a first that's where I'll be going.

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e_o_c Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3	I'll be doing the M Sc in Economics at UCL too. Has anyone heard anything from the college yet about start dates for the Maths course or fees?

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Chopov Eager! Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 45	Have you already received the offer letter? Math course is supposed to start on 22nd of September...

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