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economista · 07-18-2008, 01:25 PM

Hi,

I am thinking to apply for a Master Programme the Paris School of Economics (PSE). On their website they state two master programmes, APE and ETE. Does anyone know more about the differences / profiles of those two? Is there one that's better then the other?

Thank you guys so much for your help!

capitalmarx · 07-18-2008, 05:20 PM

As far as I know, ETE is not for Economics. For APE, I heard that some profs speak French during lectures. So, if you are an international student, you should consider this.

Jim Mora · 07-19-2008, 08:52 PM

Hi,
I am a student at APE and I have some good friends at ETE ("Economie Théorique et Empirique", which means "Theoretical and Empirical Economics", so yes it is econ).
Basically, both programs are very good and belong to the Paris School of Economics ( I know some people laugh at PSE but I think they are wrong).
I would say that the choice depends on what you want to study.
In my opinion ETE is better than APE in econometrics (they have JM Robin), international economics (Mayer, Fontagnié) and maybe macroeconomics.
APE is better at theory (they have some good people : Jéhiel, Compte, Demange), applied microeconomics, and development economics (Bourguignon).
If you don't know yet what you want to do I would suggest you go to APE because I think it is slightly better (that's what I did and I do not regret it).
If you apply for the first year of APE, be ready to work a lot (they're trying to adopt the US PhD format). ETE is easier in first year.
As for the language taught in class, most APE's courses are taught in English, the only noticeable exception being Piketty's class (that's what I've been told).

michaelmas · 07-19-2008, 09:15 PM

Harvard's Philip Aghion once said in a conference I attended, that France was a First World country with Third World universities.

Jim Mora · 07-19-2008, 09:21 PM

That's true for most of the universities in France. But PSE has a lot of cash to invest and you cannot compare it to a French university.
By the way, Philippe Aghion is also a prof. at APE, and he is the PhD advisor of several students.

Ancalagon The Black · 07-20-2008, 05:15 AM

Just what exactly is a Third World university? Isn't that a discriminatory sentence?

michaelmas · 07-20-2008, 10:16 AM

Oh, please. Discriminatory? Hardly.

LouisBD · 07-20-2008, 01:16 PM

I hope that Agion had specific universities in mind and specific areas. Othierwise he should take a look at Category:French scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or even more impressive:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...mathematicians

Not only have they a lot of people, but also real heavyweights: Or would you not consider Jean-Pierre Serre as a big name?

Let me give quickly two names:
Lagrange
Bachelier

Note: I am not from France nor have a special bond with the country.

Jim Mora · 07-20-2008, 01:46 PM

I don't think he was talking about the academic level of French researchers, but rather on the relatively poor material conditions of the universities. It is almost a consensus in France that we have to improve them dramatically. But that takes us far from the original post...

bscout · 07-20-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LouisBD

Let me give quickly two names:
Lagrange
Bachelier.

Therefore, I suppose the Greeks are still strong in Philosophy. After all, they had Parmenides, Socrates, etc. :P

@Jim Mora: just out of curiosity, how would you compare Paris 1 with PSE?

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07-18-2008, 05:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
capitalmarx Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 8	As far as I know, ETE is not for Economics. For APE, I heard that some profs speak French during lectures. So, if you are an international student, you should consider this.

07-19-2008, 08:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jim Mora Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	Hi, I am a student at APE and I have some good friends at ETE ("Economie Théorique et Empirique", which means "Theoretical and Empirical Economics", so yes it is econ). Basically, both programs are very good and belong to the Paris School of Economics ( I know some people laugh at PSE but I think they are wrong). I would say that the choice depends on what you want to study. In my opinion ETE is better than APE in econometrics (they have JM Robin), international economics (Mayer, Fontagnié) and maybe macroeconomics. APE is better at theory (they have some good people : Jéhiel, Compte, Demange), applied microeconomics, and development economics (Bourguignon). If you don't know yet what you want to do I would suggest you go to APE because I think it is slightly better (that's what I did and I do not regret it). If you apply for the first year of APE, be ready to work a lot (they're trying to adopt the US PhD format). ETE is easier in first year. As for the language taught in class, most APE's courses are taught in English, the only noticeable exception being Piketty's class (that's what I've been told).

07-19-2008, 09:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
michaelmas Eager! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 80	Harvard's Philip Aghion once said in a conference I attended, that France was a First World country with Third World universities.

07-19-2008, 09:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
Jim Mora Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	That's true for most of the universities in France. But PSE has a lot of cash to invest and you cannot compare it to a French university. By the way, Philippe Aghion is also a prof. at APE, and he is the PhD advisor of several students.

07-20-2008, 05:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Ancalagon The Black TestMagic Guru-in-Training Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 971	Just what exactly is a Third World university? Isn't that a discriminatory sentence?

07-20-2008, 10:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
michaelmas Eager! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 80	Oh, please. Discriminatory? Hardly.

07-20-2008, 01:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
LouisBD Eager! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 43	I hope that Agion had specific universities in mind and specific areas. Othierwise he should take a look at Category:French scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Or even more impressive: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...mathematicians Not only have they a lot of people, but also real heavyweights: Or would you not consider Jean-Pierre Serre as a big name? Let me give quickly two names: Lagrange Bachelier Note: I am not from France nor have a special bond with the country.

07-20-2008, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Jim Mora Trying to make mom and pop proud Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 5	I don't think he was talking about the academic level of French researchers, but rather on the relatively poor material conditions of the universities. It is almost a consensus in France that we have to improve them dramatically. But that takes us far from the original post...

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