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I agree with africaecon, yet it is hard to imagine that someone who is good ad math would achieve a score less then say 740. (Although probably someone knows of an example).
About locational effects, they do exist. Recently I have attended a lecture which gave an overview of the research history of the university I attend and they elaborated on strengths and weaknesses. It was very much stressed that the mere location was a sometimes a disadvantage to attract young researchers. |
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My aim of of this topic was to let know what schools say on the GRE scores when you contact them.But since you're talking on GRE in general how important is the verbal section for top 10 schools?
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I had lunch this week with a guy, who did his PhD in a top 5 school and works currently in another top 5 school as an assistant professor, in order to ask his experiences and advice for applying to graduate schools. His opinion was that schools are not usually that interested in the verbal score for non-native speakers as they know that it is a bad signal for English skills. Therefore, they are more interested in one's success in the actual language test. It might be, however, that he was just being nice to me (my verbal score is 390), and I'm also aware of the fact that the significance of the verbal section, especially for non-native speakers, is something that really divides opinions.
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I don't doubt the professor. Just that I think for those like me who grew up in a country with English as first language and so have had TOEFL waived by most schools(except Duke and a few others), I think I need some moderate verbal score to kill any lingering doubts. But if you have the TOEFL then the verbal score is surely less important for you. I dont want to take the TOEFL in addition to my GRE retake, plenty application fees, time constraints. I'm no native speaker but I've being taught in, read and spoken English since grade 1 so I'm even less willing to take the TOEFL if I can get it waived....also I hate these tests. They seem to occupy the whole alphabet. TOEFL, SAT, GMAT, LSAT, MCAT, what else?
But don't fret too much about your verbal score, at least don't risk your 800Q. The verbal is far less important for anyone. As to its importance for non-native speakers, there can be arguments on either side, as you said. All not strong enough for you to worry too much. |
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I just asked a friend who finished his PhD two year ago at Princeton.He actually called Faruk Gul who Chairs the admission committee and he was told that Princeton doesn't care about verbal!
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Yes I remember that...I ll try to ask him again
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I 've spoken today to a Georgetown professor(PhD MIT) very well known and on GRE he said that verbal is important mostly for foreigners.A low verbal score will make AdComs to think that the applicant cannot communicate effectively in English .It doesn't have to be a stellar score but a 450+ on verbal will be good.Even though in this case they will care a little bit more on TOEFL scores rather GRE verbal.More is discounted for native English language speakers or for people have obtained a degree from an English language speaking country.
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