the usage of "the same"

[kmokang]

It's really last... :o

1) Is the "same" should be with the all the time. why?

- I have the same book as you have.
- He always gives the same old excuse.

2)"books of the same size" is common usage. why not "the same size of the books"

Edited by - kmokang on 2002 Apr 28 03:30:37

[21cn]

It's really last... :o

1) Is the "same" should be with the all the time. why?

- I have the same book as you have.
- He always gives the same old excuse.

Firstly, I think these "the" are not for "same" ,but for the nouns followed.

Secondly, we can use "same" without "the" in some case.
e.g. -Happy new year!
-Same to you!

2)"books of the same size" is common usage. why not "the same size of the books"

"Books of the same size" emphasizes the books. And those books happen to be the same size.

"The same size of the books" emphasizes the size.

Hope I'm right and hope it helps.