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chaiyachoti · 05-28-2002, 06:46 AM

Hi Everyone,

I have some questions of the TOEFL structure and written expression.

1) _________ the surface of metal, but also weakens it.

A) Not only does rust corrode
B) Not only rust corrodes
C) Rust, which not only corrodes
D) Rust not only corrodes

The answer is D. I think A. is also correct according to the inversion rule.
Which one is better if both A. and D. are grammatically correct?

2) [A river] usually [begins] [far up] in the mountains or [hill].

What is the meaning of far up?

3) Laser beams [can carry] long-distance signals [in way] [somewhat][ similar to] radio waves.

4) Langston Hughes always seemed to know [exactly who] he was, and [those knowledges] helped [make him] one of the [most respected] writers in the United States.

Thank You.

chaiyachoti

Edited by - chaiyachoti on 2002 May 28 00:49:27

raghuveer_v · 05-28-2002, 04:59 PM

Let me try...

Quote:

1) _________ the surface of metal, but also weakens it.

A) Not only does rust corrode
B) Not only rust corrodes
C) Rust, which not only corrodes
D) Rust not only corrodes

The answer is D. I think A. is also correct according to the inversion rule.
Which one is better if both A. and D. are grammatically correct?

(A) would be incorrect because, if we put A (Not only does rust corrode), since a 'noun'(rust) follows 'not only', it requires a 'noun' or 'pronoun' after 'but also', to make the scentence correct.

Quote:

2) [A river] usually [begins] [far up] in the mountains or [hill].

What is the meaning of far up?

"far up" should mean "very high", as "far away" means "very distant"

correction would be hill => hills.

Quote:

3) Laser beams [can carry] long-distance signals [in way] [somewhat][ similar to] radio waves.

correction: in way => in a way

Quote:

4) Langston Hughes always seemed to know [exactly who] he was, and [those knowledges] helped [make him] one of the [most respected] writers in the United States.

Correction : those knowledges => that knowledge

HTR!! (Hope that's right!)

Raghuveer.

**Erin** · 05-28-2002, 06:12 PM

PERFECT!! I couldn't have said it better myself!

Nice job on that first question, Raghuveer. I've explained that question before, and it's kind of tricky... Hard to see at first.

Excellent work!!

Erin

**Erin** · 05-28-2002, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Hi Everyone,

I have some questions of the TOEFL structure and written expression.

...

Thank You.

chaiyachoti

Hi, chaiyachoti.

Just want to tell you that I changed the title of your post so that it'll be more informative for others; the name of this section is TOEFL Grammar, so we can already assume that all posts in this section will be TOEFL grammar questions.

Erin

chaiyachoti · 05-29-2002, 01:54 AM

Hi Raghuveer!

It's very kind for your clear explanation especially in the 1st question.

Thank You.

Hi Erin!

I don't know the meaning of your sentence.
-- I couldn't have said it better myself! --

chaiyachoti

**Erin** · 05-29-2002, 02:06 AM

Quote:

I don't know the meaning of your sentence.

-- I couldn't have said it better myself! --

chaiyachoti

How about this... Let's remove the "tense" information and see if it's easier to understand:

I can't say it better myself. (I can't do better than Raghuveer; Raghuveer did a job as good as I would do.)

Now you get it? If so, it's the same thing, except my original sentence is in past tense!!

Let me know, okay? I really want to know!!

Erin

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raghuveer_v · 05-29-2002, 02:17 AM

Thank you.

Erin, a small doubt ...

"myself" is for emphasis, right?
It's the same as...
"I myself couldn't have said it better."

is it?

Raghuveer.

chaiyachoti · 05-29-2002, 02:37 AM

It's ok for your explanation.

Thank you again , Erin.

chaiyachoti

**Erin** · 06-09-2002, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Thank you.

Erin, a small doubt ...

"myself" is for emphasis, right?
It's the same as...
"I myself couldn't have said it better."

is it?

Raghuveer.

Yes, of course you are right, Raghuveer!!

It's just that this is pretty much a "fixed phrase," and it'd sound funny if we used "perfect grammar" to say this!

Good question!

Erin

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05-28-2002, 06:46 AM	#1 (permalink)
chaiyachoti Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Thailand Posts: 135	Hi Everyone, I have some questions of the TOEFL structure and written expression. 1) _________ the surface of metal, but also weakens it. A) Not only does rust corrode B) Not only rust corrodes C) Rust, which not only corrodes D) Rust not only corrodes The answer is D. I think A. is also correct according to the inversion rule. Which one is better if both A. and D. are grammatically correct? 2) [A river] usually [begins] [far up] in the mountains or [hill]. What is the meaning of far up? 3) Laser beams [can carry] long-distance signals [in way] [somewhat][ similar to] radio waves. 4) Langston Hughes always seemed to know [exactly who] he was, and [those knowledges] helped [make him] one of the [most respected] writers in the United States. Thank You. chaiyachoti Edited by - chaiyachoti on 2002 May 28 00:49:27

05-29-2002, 01:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
chaiyachoti Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Thailand Posts: 135	Hi Raghuveer! It's very kind for your clear explanation especially in the 1st question. Thank You. Hi Erin! I don't know the meaning of your sentence. -- I couldn't have said it better myself! -- chaiyachoti

05-29-2002, 02:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
raghuveer_v TestMagic Guru-in-Training Join Date: May 2002 Location: India Posts: 902	Thank you. Erin, a small doubt ... "myself" is for emphasis, right? It's the same as... "I myself couldn't have said it better." is it? Raghuveer.

05-29-2002, 02:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
chaiyachoti Within my grasp! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Thailand Posts: 135	It's ok for your explanation. Thank you again , Erin. chaiyachoti

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