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knok · 2007 August 9th, 10:15 PM

I got your point. ETS just admits it but it has an exception in favor of itself. I agree that only using a common sense is enough to judge the testing conditions.

ETS tried to use academic research to reduce the costs of creating of testing centers.

The complaints were sent to the justice system. That organization has lawyers to investigate our case. Don't worry. Problems will be solved.

arubaohio · 2007 August 9th, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by knok

I got your point. ETS just admits it but it has an exception in favor of itself. I agree that only using a common sense is enough to judge the testing conditions.

ETS tried to use academic research to reduce the costs of creating of testing centers.

The complaints were sent to the justice system. That organization has lawyers to investigate our case. Don't worry. Problems will be solved.

Knok, C'mon man, forget about the "exception in favor of itself". Let's say you are an impartial auditor auditing ETS, what do you think when you read on page i) under "Abstract" (which is supposed to summarize the whole report) this:
"More effective means need to be devised to reduce or control distraction."

Am I missing something?

knok · 2007 August 10th, 03:50 AM

No offense.

I am not going against you. Ha..ha..

Hobicat · 2007 August 10th, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by arubaohio

@ Hobicat,
Who said anything about decreasing the TOEFL barriers? Knok didn't, I didn't.

aruba

Yes, he did. Do the research. The thread isn't far from here.

arubaohio · 2007 August 10th, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hobicat

Yes, he did. Do the research. The thread isn't far from here.

@ Hobicat
Why didn't you post in that thread, then? Or you were in the mood for some philosophical discussion

, in general?

mclosen · 2009 April 7th, 11:23 PM

Hi there,
I also want to complain my Toefl test. I yust took the test last week for admission to grad studies at a university in Canada. My test was scheduled for 11.30am. However, the test center did not scheduled the test properly. Finally, we were waiting 3 hours before we could start with the test. Due to the delay I also missed an appointment with my professor.

In my mind a three hour delay is abosutely not professional since the Toefl is very important for almost all test takers.

2007 August 9th, 10:15 PM	#21 (permalink)
knok TestMagic Guru Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,187	I got your point. ETS just admits it but it has an exception in favor of itself. I agree that only using a common sense is enough to judge the testing conditions. ETS tried to use academic research to reduce the costs of creating of testing centers. The complaints were sent to the justice system. That organization has lawyers to investigate our case. Don't worry. Problems will be solved. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Facts: Be sure to pass all sections of TOEFL iBT (R21, L18, S26*,W24) before applying for FPGEE. Thousands of candidates passed FPGEE but could not achieve TOEFL requirement after several attempts. Percent passing rate on the speaking section is only 10 percent. (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, page 5) The average score on the speaking section of the US candidates is 22 and candidates from English speaking countries is 23 (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, p. 9-10.) Would you like to see changes? Cilck here ->http://www.aetr.org/index.php to file TOEFL reform

2007 August 10th, 03:50 AM	#23 (permalink)
knok TestMagic Guru Moderator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,187	No offense. I am not going against you. Ha..ha.. _ _ _ _ SIG _ _ _ _ Facts: Be sure to pass all sections of TOEFL iBT (R21, L18, S26*,W24) before applying for FPGEE. Thousands of candidates passed FPGEE but could not achieve TOEFL requirement after several attempts. Percent passing rate on the speaking section is only 10 percent. (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, page 5) The average score on the speaking section of the US candidates is 22 and candidates from English speaking countries is 23 (http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/TOEFL...mmary_2008.pdf, p. 9-10.) Would you like to see changes? Cilck here ->http://www.aetr.org/index.php to file TOEFL reform

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2009 April 7th, 11:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
mclosen I JUST got here. Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1	Hi there, I also want to complain my Toefl test. I yust took the test last week for admission to grad studies at a university in Canada. My test was scheduled for 11.30am. However, the test center did not scheduled the test properly. Finally, we were waiting 3 hours before we could start with the test. Due to the delay I also missed an appointment with my professor. In my mind a three hour delay is abosutely not professional since the Toefl is very important for almost all test takers.

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