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Sick and Tired of iBT
03-03-2007, 08:53 PM
I am going to sue ETS

Hi guys,

I’m going to sue ETS on their blood sucking iBT. I have gathered a great deal of information about them and their ways in treating their customers ”test takers” that would help explain dozens of ETS mistakes . I have contacted a big attorney firm. The lawyers over there are collecting information. I am waiting for their final decision.

The reason why I am contacting you is because my lawyers have advised me that the more candidates claiming unfair test conditions or questions, the better our chance would be.

Personally, I am a pharmacist and my career has almost gone. My life is in the middle of no where. I have lost my opportunity to live nearby my family in my state. I have nothing to lose. I have been taking the TSE and TOEFL iBT 15 times since January 2006. I have been doing nothing but studying and taking ETS tests for 14 months. Is it fair? Meanwhile, I have lost job opportunities. I have spent fortune on TOEFL registration and materials. I have lost my self-esteem. Consequently, I have decided on filing my claim. They think that most of the foreigners in the U.S. have no rights. ETS reserves the rights to have our test responses without even treating us as humans Instead, they look down to most of us as if we were their slaves. Have you ever called the ETS customer services? Try it.

Let me tell you a real story. I believe that every body remembers the chaos of TOEFL iBT in November 2006. Last November 2006, I called to inquire about my TOEFL iBT test results that had not been published and been late for about 20 days. Asking me tens of questions about my identity, the customer service representative said that she could not give me MY test results. I asked for her supervisor. The honorable man said the same claiming that I did not have my test registration number given that I had correctly answered every single question concerning my name, birth date, address, test center, date and time, and so forth. I, inoffensively, thought to ask this supervisor about who would be the auditor for ETS. Surprise!!! “NO ONE IS AUDITING US”, said the supervisor. After 2-3 minutes of what I should call monologue,I was the only one talking, he, sarcastically, advised me to go ahead and ask my institution ((NABP)) to assign me another test.
Based on what is mentioned above, please answer the following question.

Who in the world would repel customers by asking them to find someone else to do what s/he supposed to make living of?
The answer is one word: MONOPOLY

ETS has succeeded to convince universities as well as professional institutions like the NABP to recognize ETS as the only English test maker in the US. In doing so, they held some practice tests in countries like England. Of course, the English students could have made it in the speaking test. Taking preliminary phase results into their considerations, they provided the NABP with misleading figures and numbers about the potential scores of the upcoming ETS innovation, TOEFL iBT.

I happened to get 29 on reading, 29 on listening, 29 on writing, and my best was 24 in speaking. When I requested rescoring my 24 in speaking, they remarked my test and I got 22 instead. On another test, I got R: 28, L: 28, S: 19, W: 28!!!!!

According to my understanding, any language consists of two aspects. The first aspect is the ability to receive the language. You comprehend the language using your reading and listening capabilities. The second aspect is the ability to inform others your message using this language via the writing and/or speaking. Having achieved 29 on the writing section, I would consider my abilities in conveying information using the English Language adequate. Therefore, the problem would be in the speaking score. Is it the right reflection of my real speaking level? According to my professors, instructors, colleagues, associates, co-workers, friends, neighbors, family, and letter of recognitions that I have gotten from my college, I SPEAK ENGLISH FLUENTLY. Moreover, the way by which the speaking part of the TOEFL iBT test is brought in make it harder for me to prove my competence in the language. I find it hard to come up with a perfect summary concerning 2-3 minutes lecture I have just heard to. Besides, The TOEFL iBT test mainstay would be on university situations, conversations, lectures, problems, and so on. What does this have to do with my situation? I am taking this test to be licensed as a pharmacist. Should a pharmacist be a problem solver to academic situation? I believe there are many different ways to evaluate professionals better than speaking for 5.5 minutes in the TOEFL iBT.

It is better for either the NABP or the ETS to assign another test and call it TOEFLP (Test of English as a Foreign Language for PROFESSIONALS). It is an idea that no body would even think about. As mentioned above, it is monopoly. It is all about business and business relationships. I was just wandering, what the mean of the speaking section test results would be in case that the NABP agreed upon IELTS as another approved test. Do I smell something bad? It might be. However, I trust NABP.

If you are interested, just send me at

sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com

Thanks for your consideration

Sick and Tired of iBT
03-04-2007, 09:14 PM
Dear desperate iBT test takers,

Thanks for every body who emailed a supporting message. However, I am still seeking your support. We need as many test-taker as it could be in order to be able to hire a lawyer on a “contingency fee” basis. This means that the lawyer will be paid based on a percentage of perhaps 25 to 40 percent of what you may collect on a settlement, or on a judgment if the case goes to trial. There are many things a lawyer will consider in deciding on whether or not someone has a good case. Most importantly would be the high number of the individuals claiming the exact same personal injury due to TOEFL iBT. For my initial post, please follow the link below. You can respond me back here or at my e-mail sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com (sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com)


http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html

I fade up
03-05-2007, 02:19 AM
Believe me there is no way out of this dilemma but suing them in the court. Let us just do something like a one man. We, as one unit, should be able to hire a lawyer on a “contingency fee” basis. This means that the lawyer will be paid based on a percentage of perhaps 25 to 40 percent of what we may collect on a settlement, or on a judgment if the case goes to trial. There are many things a lawyer will consider in deciding on whether or not someone has a good case. Most importantly would be our large number.
Think about it.

Should you be interested, e-mail me at:
Sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com (Sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com)

Please, check my first correspondence here:
http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html (http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html)

I fade up
03-05-2007, 03:16 AM
Should you be interested, e-mail me at:
Sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com (Sickntired_ibt@yahoo.com)

Please, check my first correspondence here:
http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html (http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html)
Hi guys,

As I said before, I want your support on this case. I hired a law firm that is going to represent my legal claim concerning TOEFL iBT unfairness conditions. We, test-takers, are customers to ETS.

Therefore, we have some rights.

First of all, although we are asked to pay 150 dollars every time we take the TOEFL, we get no individual comments on our actual performance. All what we get is a copy-and-past-message from a dropdown menu. Is that fair?

Second, why most of the test takers who have get almost perfect scores on Reading, Listening, and/or Writing sections, have not received more than 22 in the Speaking section?


Answer: The speaking part is the Cash Cow for ETS. Besides, we want to know what the percentage of those who take the TOEFL iBT for professional licensing reasons is compared to those who take it for academic purpose.

frenzgood
03-05-2007, 06:09 AM
Hi there
I'm ready to fight the battle with you.
Frenz

Erin
03-06-2007, 04:34 PM
Please refer to this thread:

http://www.urch.com/forums/toefl/64996-i-am-going-sue-ets.html

I'm going to lock this thread now.

As always, if you have any questions, please post them in the feedback forum. :)