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ward
02-22-2008, 04:21 PM
One of my professors just showed me this blog. It is a list of which people are interviewing for jobs at different universities and such. It probably isn't the best sample but it it interesting to look at - especially if you want to see how the grad schools you are considering are doing in the job market. Of course, most of you have probably already seen this.

Job Market Rumors Blog - Wiki (http://www.bluwiki.com/go/Econjobmarket)

ward
02-22-2008, 04:25 PM
I just realized that I can't spell "interesting" as evident in the title of this thread...it's a good thing I like math.

AstralTraveller
02-22-2008, 06:19 PM
One of my professors just showed me this blog. It is a list of which people are interviewing for jobs at different universities and such. It probably isn't the best sample but it it interesting to look at - especially if you want to see how the grad schools you are considering are doing in the job market. Of course, most of you have probably already seen this.

Job Market Rumors Blog - Wiki (http://www.bluwiki.com/go/Econjobmarket)

Great link! Didn't know it....quite interesting reading indeed!

Guest Who
02-22-2008, 08:58 PM
quite interesting reading indeed!

also woefully incomplete, so much so that I'd put zero weight on its contents. Last year it was considerably more complete than this year, and hence useful.

asquare
02-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Here's some background information on the job market process I posted in December (http://www.urch.com/forums/phd-economics/82112-job-market-stuff.html):

Some of you may remember these sites from last year, but for those who don't, I thought they'd be worth reposting. This BB (http://econjobrumors.proboards105.com/) has rumors and discussion of the job market process by field, and this Wiki (http://www.bluwiki.com/go/Econjobmarket) has information on flyouts and offers as it becomes available.

Both sites shed some information on what happens at the other end of the process, and I think it's useful for students and applicants to have a sense of the process.

For those who are unfamiliar with the job market for econ PhDs looking for academic positions, it goes something like this: junior positions (for recent PhDs or those with a couple of years of experience -- not tenured positions) are posted throughout the fall. The jobs are mostly posted through a system called "JOE (http://www.aeaweb.org/joe/)," which stands for "Job Openings for Economists." Academic institutions in the US and abroad, NGOs such as the WB, Feds, and IMF, and some private companies like RAND or even Google post jobs there. Job market candidates send out "packets" in early/mid November. These "packets" contain the job market paper, recommendation letters, CV, cover letter, and any other required information (such as a statement of teaching philosophy). Candidates looking for academic positions may send out 80-100 of these packets; it's a major production.

First round interviews mostly take place at the AEA/ASSA meetings (http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AEA/Annual_Meeting/index.htm), in early January. These are 15 or 30 minute interviews that are often scheduled back-to-back, in hotel rooms at the conference hotels. They are very short sessions that usually cover the basics of the job market paper and applicant's other research. These interviews are scheduled by phone calls that start coming in early/mid December. Some people will have up to 20 interviews; I believe the average for someone from a top-20 school was around 12 last year. The process of scheduling, rearranging, and canceling interviews (as better offers come in) is non trivial! The meetings take place in early January, and "fly-out" offers come in starting shortly after the meetings. (Well, some schools will skip the preliminary interviews, and some star candidates are offered fly outs without preliminary interviews). "Fly-outs" are usually 1.5-2 day long job interviews that include a job-talk seminar, meetings with many different faculty members, and dinner. It's an odd combination of job interview/get-to-know-you/sell you on the school. These take place from mid-January to early March. Offers start coming in at any time after fly-outs begin; as candidates turn down offers, second-round fly-outs will be offered to other job candidates. Usually everything is settled by the middle or end of March.

Sorry, that was longer than I intended and is probably redundant for a lot of people here. But the job market is sometimes this big mystery and I really had no clue when I applied or as a first year student, so I thought some others might be confused too. At any rate, I always think it's good to know what you are getting yourself into and besides, misery loves company, so those of you waiting to hear on your PhD applications can go and read about what folks 5 or 6 years ahead of you are going through now!