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    Are German Pharmcists graduating after 2003 eligible for FPGEE?

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    I am a German Pharmacist and I moved tothe USA last year. I am now trying to figure out what I need to doto become a licensed Pharmacist here. I know that there is the FPGECProgramm including the FPGEE. My problem is that I am not sure if Iam qualified or the test.


    My main issue is the 5 year-DegreeRequirement (I graduated after 2003). To become a Pharmacist inGermany you need to go to university for 4 years and pass the firstand second State Exam. Then you need to leave the university and do a one-year internship. After the year of internship you have anothertest (the third State Exam). Only if you pass all these three testsyou get the license to work. So it takes at least 5 years to be aPharmcist.


    Now I do not know if I meet therequirement of 5 years because my education at the university wasonly 4 years and the website of the NABP clearly says thatinternships do not count.


    Is there another German Pharmcist whograduated after 2003 and was able to take the test?


    Does anybody know what I can do if theinternship does not count? Can I just go university here for a yearto get the 5 years or is my whole degree useless?


    I am thankful for every answer!

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    Re: Are German Pharmcists graduating after 2003 eligible for FPGEE?

    I am in the same position and was wondering the same, following this thread.

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    Re: Are German Pharmcists graduating after 2003 eligible for FPGEE?

    I think it counts into the five-year requirement, this is why:

    The FPGEC Application Bulletin states that "The following completed after graduation cannot be considered for determining the minimum required curriculum length: (...) internships (...).

    It says AFTER graduation, but we need this internship to take the final Third Exam and get our German pharmacy degree. The internship happens before the graduation.

    However, I just sent an e-mail to NABP and asked them, just to make sure. I will post here if I get an answer.



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    Re: Are German Pharmcists graduating after 2003 eligible for FPGEE?

    Sadly, the NABP hasn't responded, but I found this: (look for the comment from Dr. Jochen Pfeifer): Apotheker in den USA: Statt Umschau Klinische Pharmazie und hoheres Gehalt

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    Hello,
    sorry for answering so late!
    Thank you for writing the NABP. I did the same one year ago when I was still in Germany and they wrote me back a copy and paste of the text that is on their website. Maybe you have more luck. But this week I had some connections and got the direct email address from a person who works at the board and apparently has to deal with this issue. I wrote him Friday evening . He didn't answer yet . I let you know when he does!
    But the article of the DAZ gives me some hope.

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    Re: Are German Pharmcists graduating after 2003 eligible for FPGEE?

    Thank you.

    Did you get your "supporting documentation" (proof of degree and transcripts) from your German university yet?
    It is quite a hassle, they told me that they have to make them individually with all the classes I have taken and estimate when they were. Also it has to be in a sealed envelope with a stamp etc., just like they said in the Application Bulletin.

    If I understood correctly, we need this document package 3 times - twice sealed (one for FPGEC application, one for the ECE application) and one for us to get it translated.

    Good to hear you have connections! I hope he will be able to help us with this whole process. Just let me know if you learn something interesting

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    I haven't started to collect the documentation yet. I already have a transcript from my university that is in English and German. I got it when I was still in Germany and I only wanted it so I have something when I am applying for jobs outside the pharmacy. It was not sealed so I guess I need to get it again.
    I also read somewhere that you need 3 sealed packages that is correct. I am just wondering if you just need the stuff from the university. I do not know where you studied, but I studied in Kiel and all the final test where managed by the Landesamt fuer soziale Dienste of Schleswig-Holstein. My certifications and co are issued by them. So I guess I need some documentation from them as well, right?

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    Yes. I studied in Mainz and my certificates were issued by the Landesamt fuer Soziales, I only have 1 original of each here with me. I guess we will need 1 of each in both sealed envelopes 🙄

    I have asked our Studienbuero what to do about it, because they previously said they have some experience. If they can't take care of it, I will just ask the Landesamt if they can do the whole sealed and stamped envelope shenanigans with all of my Staatsexamen papers and approbation 3 times 😀

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    Let me know what they tell you!

    I guess we definitely need something from the Landesamt because they are the only one who gave us grades. All the tests I did at the university where only " passed" or " not passed" but no grades.

    We probably need both: official transcription from the university and degree from the Landesamt. So 2x 3 sealed envelopes.

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    Yep, you are right. They told me they can only include my classes from university and the grades of the state examinations (from the scans I sent them). For the state examination certificates and approbation I have to contact the Landesamt fuer Soziales. It will be ready in about 2 weeks and they will send me a preview to review it.

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