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wow #1 seems pretty hard, i dont know how to solve it either.

 

for #2, represent the radius of circle Q with r.

col A = area of circle O - area of white region

col B = area of white region * 4

 

so it's best to start with getting the area of white region.

area of white region = Pi * (2r)^2 - Pi * r^2 = 3r^2 * Pi

 

col A = Pi * (4r)^2 - area of white region

= 16r^2 Pi - 3r^2 Pi

= 13r^2 Pi

 

col B = 3r^2 Pi * 4

= 12r^2 Pi

 

Therefore, col A > col B

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Hi,

The question needs some clarifications. It should mention that two vertices of the traingles meet at the centre of the circle.

Total area of the circle=100pi

Area of the two traingle=100pi-80pi=20pi

Angle at the vertex (of one traingle)= (360*20pi*1/2)/100pi

= 36 degree

so, a+b+c+d=(180-36)+(180-36)=2800

 

 

Regards,

 

Jakir

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Answer is 288

 

There are two ways to get it

easy by approximation as angle subtended at the center has nothing to do with the area of traingle , but with the sector....

1)

See it is told that area of shaded region is 80pi

and area of circle is pi*(R^2)=pi*100

so the area of traingle is 100pi - 80 pi= 20pie

now the two chords are diameters if they intersect, they at the centre and bisect equally and engendering two equal trianlges....

approx(area of one trinagle will be ) 10pi

 

in circle total area is find out by sector ;;;;

if we can fine the sector we can get the answer...

ratio of the areas=20pi/100pi(100pi is the total area , full circle)

that is ratio of angles should be for two triangles (or so called sector) --->360*(2/10)=72

for 1 sector angle should be 360*(1/10)=36

A+B+C+D+2x(say)=180+180

A+B+C+D= 360-2*36

A+B+C+D=288

Hence proved without interring further into the formula.....

 

 

Other probable solution is

Let E be the thrid angle in the traingle

 

1/2*radius*radiusSinA=area of traingle

area of unshaded cirle comes out to be=100pie-80pie=20pie

so,

E=180-(c+d),180-(a+b)

 

1/2*100*SinE + 1/2*100*SinE =20pie

E comes out to be 39 near about

so

360 -(39+39) = 282 (approx) = 288

 

:):grad:

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Hi, KBTA, i see that u used the angle and area relationship to solve question 1. I have a question though.

 

Let's say angle E is the the third angle of the triangle with angles C and D.

 

The equation should be E/360 = area of circular region covered by E / area of circle, right?

 

The area of the circular region covered by E includes the small unshaded triangle, and a small shaded region. However, in your equation, you seem to have ignored the area of the shaded part, and only considered the area of the small triangle (20pi*1/2). Could you explain why?

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I have not ignored this section that is why wrote, by approximation , the angle of the sector(which we need to know) has nothing to do with the area of traingle......

so by approximation the answer should be....

as there is no way except ,you do lenghty calculations........

the 2nd solution to this problem.......

please let me know other solution for this, I am not able to descry the figure, and found it a little ambigous.....i guess we have to reach the best possible answer to get it going.....:hmm:

 

 

 

 

Hi, KBTA, i see that u used the angle and area relationship to solve question 1. I have a question though.

 

Let's say angle E is the the third angle of the triangle with angles C and D.

 

The equation should be E/360 = area of circular region covered by E / area of circle, right?

 

The area of the circular region covered by E includes the small unshaded triangle, and a small shaded region. However, in your equation, you seem to have ignored the area of the shaded part, and only considered the area of the small triangle (20pi*1/2). Could you explain why?

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Hi, KBTA, i see that u used the angle and area relationship to solve question 1. I have a question though.

 

Let's say angle E is the the third angle of the triangle with angles C and D.

 

The equation should be E/360 = area of circular region covered by E / area of circle, right?

 

The area of the circular region covered by E includes the small unshaded triangle, and a small shaded region. However, in your equation, you seem to have ignored the area of the shaded part, and only considered the area of the small triangle (20pi*1/2). Could you explain why?

 

Hi zymeth02,

Yes, you are right. I have wrongfully neglected the shaded area behind the tringle. We should wait to get the better solution.

Regards,

Jakir

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Answer is 288

 

There are two ways to get it

easy by approximation as angle subtended at the center has nothing to do with the area of traingle , but with the sector....

1)

See it is told that area of shaded region is 80pi

and area of circle is pi*(R^2)=pi*100

so the area of traingle is 100pi - 80 pi= 20pie

now the two chords are diameters if they intersect, they at the centre and bisect equally and engendering two equal trianlges....

approx(area of one trinagle will be ) 10pi

 

in circle total area is find out by sector ;;;;

if we can fine the sector we can get the answer...

ratio of the areas=20pi/100pi(100pi is the total area , full circle)

that is ratio of angles should be for two triangles (or so called sector) --->360*(2/10)=72

for 1 sector angle should be 360*(1/10)=36

A+B+C+D+2x(say)=180+180

A+B+C+D= 360-2*36

A+B+C+D=288

Hence proved without interring further into the formula.....

 

 

Other probable solution is

Let E be the thrid angle in the traingle

 

1/2*radius*radiusSinA=area of traingle

area of unshaded cirle comes out to be=100pie-80pie=20pie

so,

E=180-(c+d),180-(a+b)

 

1/2*100*SinE + 1/2*100*SinE =20pie

E comes out to be 39 near about

so

360 -(39+39) = 282 (approx) = 288

 

:):grad:

now the two chords are diameters if they intersect,?

pl explain how u concluded the chords are diameters

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  • 2 weeks later...

Hi Everybody,

The solution of no. 1 problem I have given before is totally correct. Thebasic principle:

 

 

The angle subtended at the center is same for arc as well as the triangle formed with radius and chord connecting the arc end points.

Kapil leo, a newcomer of our GMAT Testmagic forum has helped me to clarify the mystery that was us before. Cheers Kapil leo.

 

 

For further clarification we can solve the following problem that I have borrowed from TM GMAT Problem Solving

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4.The shape of a tunnel entrance. is of a circle which is 3/4th of the full circle and the base of the entrance is 12 feet across, what is the perimeter, in feet, of the curved portion of the entrance'?

 

 

(A) 9π

(B) 12π

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(D) 18π

(E) 9π/sqrt2

 

 

Rgds,

Jakir

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The diameter of the circle is 20 and the area of the shaded region is 80 pi. What is the value of a + b + c + d

 

A) 144

B) 216

C) 240

D) 270

E) 288

 

 

http://www.maxmytest.com/FileStore/21.jpg

 

How do you solve these fast?

Could you please insert the figure of this problem

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