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    I would like to get some advice regarding UBC (University of British Columbia) Masters program for a stepping stone for Economics PhD. How much would it help to get me into a good PhD program? I did apply to PhD programs this cycle but seem not to get any offers and applied to UBC Masters program as a recommendation from one of my professors for a backup plan.

    To help giving me advices and suggestions, here is my background:

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    Type of Undergrad: Top 50 Public (Math Honors, Econ Honors, & Engineering)
    Undergrad GPA: 3.56
    Type of Grad: Top 20 Private (Applied Mathematics & Statistics)
    Grad GPA: 3.91
    GRE: 153 V, 170 Q, 3.5 W

    Math Courses: Calculus I/II/III (A,B+,A), Real Analysis I/II (B+,A-), Linear Algebra I/II (B+,A), Differential Equation (A-), Group Theory (B), Stochastic Analysis (A-,A), Bayesian Statistics (A-), Mathematical Finance (A), Stochastic Methods in Finance (A-), Analysis of Algorithm (A+), Probability & Statistics I/II (A,A), Statistical Methods in Data Analysis I/II (A,A), Graduate Level Statistical Modeling (A-), Graduate Level Probability (A), Graduate Level Linear Algebra (A), Graduate Level Statistical Inference (A), Graduate Level Data Mining (A), Graduate Level Machine Learning (A), Graduate Level Deep Learning (A)

    Econ Courses: Basic/Intermediate Micro (A+,A), Basic/Intermediate Macro (A+,A), Econometrics I/II (A+,A+), Corporate Finance (A), Investment (A), Risk & Uncertainty (A+), Statistical Methods in Economics (A+), Managerial Economics (A+), International Trade (A+), Asymmetric Information (A), Honor Thesis in Economics (A)

    Research Experience: 2 year of Mathematics & Statistics Research as undergraduate, 1 year of Econometrics Research & Honor Thesis as undergraduate, 1 year of Statistics and Machine Learning Research as graduate student.

    Will the Masters Program at UBC improve my chance getting into Economics PhD? I saw the program and seems to be mathematically rigorous + has a research requirement to graduate. I am aiming for any school in top 50 worldwide. Thank you very much before hand, I really appreciate any helps!

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    I cannot believe that you did not get any offer. Did you apply to only T20 or something? For your question though, you may think of improving your LORs and that can happen in UBC. But honestly, I do not see much of an area from your profile that lacks tremendously. Sorry for not being super helpful.

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    If you're near the top at UBC, you can easily get into U of T and other top 50 PhD programs. However, the quality of students at UBC is very high, and this is not a small feat. But your background is good, so it's not impossible.

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    Thank you so much for your response, I applied to a wide range of schools in top 50 this year (14 schools), maybe that is not enough for this application cycle since it seems more competitive than previous years. I think one of the problem is LORs, since only one of them is from an Econ professor, the others are from Math/Stats professors. So do you think if i do really well in UBC, it can help my LORs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zubrus View Post
    If you're near the top at UBC, you can easily get into U of T and other top 50 PhD programs. However, the quality of students at UBC is very high, and this is not a small feat. But your background is good, so it's not impossible.
    Thank you for the input!

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    If you go, try to plug yourself into existing research projects early on. If you have strong computational skills (Julia/Python/R), that helps. You might want to find driven junior faculty that could use capable assistance, and then really crush it.

    Also, looking at your grades and GRE, I'm guessing that your GPA was weighed down a bit by humanities and English type classes? I think investing some time to bring up your reading/writing GRE would be a good idea. Quantitative skills are paramount, but it also helps to convince committees that your papers will be written well and you'll be a good presenter.

    Lastly, I think an MA from UBC will help in the Canadian job market (although you'd need a work permit, but you would qualify for a post-graduation work permit).

    I have good knowledge of the department and life in Vancouver, so feel free to PM me with questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetricsML View Post
    Thank you so much for your response, I applied to a wide range of schools in top 50 this year (14 schools), maybe that is not enough for this application cycle since it seems more competitive than previous years. I think one of the problem is LORs, since only one of them is from an Econ professor, the others are from Math/Stats professors. So do you think if i do really well in UBC, it can help my LORs?
    There is no need to retake the GRE. It's more than enough for a US Top 50 admit. You are correct. You probably didn't gain admission because of your letters. The letters need to speak to more than just your ability as a potential graduate student. That much is already pretty clear from your transcripts. It needs to speak to your potential to do research, and other intangibles that are not immediately obvious from someone looking at your transcripts. Given that UBC has a research requirement ingrained in their masters, it seems like it'll be able to remedy two aspects of your profile; getting more econ research experience, as well as getting another Econ LoR. If you don't manage to link up with any other professors at UBC, you should be fine with a third LoR coming from any of the course instructors. However, make sure that you've actually made an impression on this hypothetical 3rd person you end up choosing (by regularly asking questions in class, or attending office hours).

    Lastly, I don't think Top 50 worldwide is a good metric when deciding where to go for grad school. As an example, schools in the USNEWS Top 20-30 in graduate Econ, are in the 70-150 range in the overall ranking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tutonic View Post
    There is no need to retake the GRE. It's more than enough for a US Top 50 admit. You are correct. You probably didn't gain admission because of your letters. The letters need to speak to more than just your ability as a potential graduate student. That much is already pretty clear from your transcripts. It needs to speak to your potential to do research, and other intangibles that are not immediately obvious from someone looking at your transcripts. Given that UBC has a research requirement ingrained in their masters, it seems like it'll be able to remedy two aspects of your profile; getting more econ research experience, as well as getting another Econ LoR. If you don't manage to link up with any other professors at UBC, you should be fine with a third LoR coming from any of the course instructors. However, make sure that you've actually made an impression on this hypothetical 3rd person you end up choosing (by regularly asking questions in class, or attending office hours).

    Lastly, I don't think Top 50 worldwide is a good metric when deciding where to go for grad school. As an example, schools in the USNEWS Top 20-30 in graduate Econ, are in the 70-150 range in the overall ranking.

    Thank you very much for the response and advice, it is very helpful to guide me what to do if I do go to UBC for MA. I have couple other questions if you don't mind answering:

    1. Would it be stronger to have all the recommenders being an Econ Professor?
    2. What would be a good metric to aim for grad school? I know that research interest matters for most schools and I was pretty selective in choosing the department based on my research interest.

    Thank you very much beforehand.

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    Yes, ideally, you'll want all 3 letter writers to be from Econ, since they can better assess your ability as a graduate student/researcher.

    Unless you're really set on a particular sub-field, try not to have tunnel vision when selecting schools. What I mean by this is that your interests might change when you get to graduate school. Therefore, as an example, if you're currently interested in the intersections of econometrics and machine learning, you shouldn't just apply to schools where there are people working in that specific sub-field. You should also apply to schools that have a decent econometrics department in general, since you might be interested in other sub-fields of econometrics when you actually reach Year 2/3. Furthermore, it could very well be the case that you end up doing something completely different (like IO or Labour) instead.

    The other thing to look at when deciding where to attend grad school is placement. If you're dead set on getting an academic placement, then you need to look more closely at both the number of academic positions that the graduates land each year, as well as which fields these people are in. It could very well be the case that the academic positions come from mostly the applied fields, and a school rarely places an econometrician into an academic position. If you're fine with an industry job, then it's a much easier choice since most schools can at least secure good industry jobs for their graduates.

    A good place to start is the USNEWS grad econ ranking. Use this as a starting point, and don't get hung up on the exact rankings of each school. Just look at it as tiers like Top 20 (schools from 11 to 20), Top 30 (schools from 21 to 30), etc since almost all the schools in each tier have comparable placements.

    Lastly, when looking at placements, try not to be swayed by the placement of that 1 person that lands a Top 5/10 academic job from a Top 20-30 school (for example). These are outliers. Look at the median placement in each school, since there's absolutely no guarantee that you'll be the star of your cohort.

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    Lots of good advice above. I'll add that, in my experience, letters from math/stats professors are not particularly useful. Math professors generally don't know students that well and their letters rarely convey much information that isn't on a transcript. Yes, there are exceptions and sometimes these letters are helpful.

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