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Thanks everyone for the wishes. Shome, I have sent mail regarding interview to your mail ID. Bonjour, ISB is a new school and has not yet got into the rankings. It will be ranked only after 2 more years. But it has got a good brand name within the short frame. Vivek, I am really sorry but there are a lot of things to wind up in my work. I have very small time frame and have a lot of work to do. I will try to do it if I find time. I have my friend preparing for GMAT who is also a member of TestMagic and I will ask her to put the rules in bunches as and when she gets time. Hope that would help. Mallika, I have already given my [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] to my friend. You can order it from amazon. Thanks, Sujayath

Thanks everyone for the wishes. Sujayath

Hi, I am pleased to inform that I have got admit from Indian School of Business. Testmagic has a major role in my success. Thanks Erin !! Sujayath

Hi guys, I have got admission from Indian School of Business. I have got admit from other schools also but this was my first choice and would be joining here. Thanks for your help in my GMAT. Sujayath

Real GMAT : 730 (97%) Q : 48 v: 42 My practice test scores ....In the order I took ... POWERPREP - I Q-49 93% V-38 84% TOT - 710 95% PRINCETON - I Q - 46 V - 42 TOT - 710 PRINCETON - II Q - 37 V - 44 TOT - 650 (This test had some bug - It didn't count some of my correct answers ) PRINCETON - III Q - 45 V - 45 TOT - 720 PRINCETON - IV Q - 46 V - 44 TOT - 720 PAPER TEST - 25 710 Kaplan: I - 620 II - 680 800SCORE 700 Verbal - 36 Maths - 57 PAPER TEST 55: 740 Verbal - 42 Quants - 50 POWERPREP II 770 (I knew all the questions)

Vivek, I am busy with the apps and think I would not find time to post all the SC rules. I have hand-written them in a book and I haven't typed them. I will try once my apps process is over. Sorry! Confused, Please search in the Maths forum. I have seen a question like this. Apart from this, there are many SD problems in this forum. Make use of them.

Thanks Girish, confused (yes this is his ID) and Pramod. Special thanks to vivek for his advice. I am surely applying for ISB. About my preperation .... It was before three months, when I decided to go for MBA. I had no idea about GMAT, even no idea what it stands for. I bought Barron's guide and was browsing through it. Now I feel that the book gave me a completely different perspective of GMAT than what it really is. My comments about the book : It can supplement along with [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] and Kaplan but would not suffice as a single resource to rely on. Maths section is good but verbal sucks. For SC, basic concepts can be obtained from that book but don't even go through the CR and RC part - a complete waste of time. Well with Barrons in hand, hoping that GMAT is very simple (since Barrons was very simple), one day I came across this site. I was taken back by the discussions, particularly SC. I understood GMAT is something different. I was even afraid to register to this site. For one month, I was silently going through the discussions. Erin's explanations drew me into a new world. At this time, I didn't had any idea of what score I would get, but I was interested in this exam. I found out there is something called [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] which is a must for GMAT. Then I found out it is a book called Official Guide. I ordered it. the day when I got the book, I was very proud and with such a pride, I regsitered in this site. Then I understood buying [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] is just a first step. How to read it in an effecient way ? I know just reading the book will bore me and will spoil the interest I had for GMAT. I split the book into a series of tests - test taking was always an interesting task for me - I feel test taking like reading a mystery novel with an unexpected ending more twisting than any other Agatha cristy's climax. At this time, I already had a good knowledge about SC (I had read more than 50% of SCs in this forum). Before starting [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip], I took powerprep I. I got 710. That gave me a confidence and started [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] happily. Now my life went hand in hand with [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. All these days, I was going through the discussions in this forum and I am not exaggerating when I say this site helped me more than [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. For SC, I started writing rules in a notebook whenever I come across one, whether from [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] or from this site (the final count was 170 - yes...170 rules). CR was not a problem for me from the beginning. Now I found I am lagging in DS. I was good but not very good in PS. I got Agarwal book and revived my basics. I got some probability and combinations material from net. I went through more than 70% of maths discussions in this forum. This gave me a very good understanding of probability. I also got a good understanding of Number properties from this forum. I took a princeton test (borrowed from my friend) every week. The score started from 710 and when I finished all the four, I was in 720. DS also improved well after sufficient practice. Basically I am an Engineer and hence Maths was not a problem at all. More than a month went very fast. [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] was over. I still had three weeks for exam. I borrowed kaplan and kaplan 800 from my friend. They didn't take more than a week. I took off from work while reading kaplan 800 and it took only two days to complete. Tip : Kaplan and Kaplan 800 are good books which require less time to complete. [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] is tightly packed with a lot of questions and it requires a lot of time. While doing [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip], I noted down the question numbers that went wrong. After finishing kaplan, I solved the questions that went wrong. I solved SC section fully again. In the final week, I borrowed ARCO's essay book from my friend ( am lucky to have such a friend who lended me all the books she had). I didn't go through it fully. I prepared templates for my essays. For AWA, I took some argument points from this book. So, thats all about my practice ... I also did SC from GMAT+ and downdowndwn.net though I didn't do any other section from these. In a nutshell : AWA - Argument: Prepare a template. Go through all the essay topis and make sure you are able to identify atleast one flaw. I did this the day before exam, when I was not able to find flaw, I depended on ARCO. AWA - Issue: Prepare a template. Go through all the essay topis and make sure you understand the topics. In the exam, you can devote 5 to 10 minutes for thinking and outlining your essay. Typing essay takes less than 10 minutes once you have an outline. The last 10 minutes can be used for spell check and style. It took only two minutes for me to check and I went to next section in 22 minutes. PS: Read as much as material you can. IMS material and Agarwal (both are Indian books) have a good range of formulae. Read to as much depth you can. For example, the formulae for radius of incircle/circumcircle inside an equilateral triangle, area of triangle formed by a sector in a circle etc seemed too deep for me but heard that they are also tested in GMAT. DS: Practise. Practise. Practise. You should practise to a level where you know some things by heart like X^2 need not be greater than X, if X^2 is 1, X can be -1 etc. Read my post about the test ... 90% of my questions were from algebra and DS were more than PS. If I had concenterated on all other topics and have left DS algebra, I would have had a very bad time. SC: Form rules. Rely on [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. Og has more then 125 rules. Find them. DownDownDown and GMAT+ are also good. CR: Practise. I don't know what else to say. You have to get a feel of the questions. RC: Don't follow princeton's idea of skimming text. Don't follow blindly kaplan strategy also. I will give my strategy - This worked for me. Non-Science passage: Read the text and make sure you understand the text before going to questions. It is not necessary to note down the author's tone, purpose etc while reading the text as kaplan says. Just read the text and understand what is written. Once you do that, the author's tone and purpose would be revealed to you. Noting down tone and purpose will waste time. Remember you have only maximum 4 minutes to read the text. If you are running out of time, and are deciding to guess, guess RC questions especially if it has two questions only. You can find the number of questions for a given RC by seeing the top - It appears like "questions 31-32 are from this passage". Need not take notes also. It is better to spell out the content you read, in your own language. Science passage: Don't try to understand fully. Take notes in the form of a flow diagram. Most of the questions can be answered by seeing the notes. Some questions will require going back to passage. So, don't spend too much time in memorizing the content. For RC, note key words like always, surely, etc which if appears in the answer most likely makes it incorrect. Thats all from me ... For confused (leonandliz) ... Set theory are questions that could be solved using venn diagrams. For example, 70% study history and 60% study maths, how many % study both ? Standard Deviation is increasingly asked in GMAT. Be familiar with mode, median and average ...Be familiar with concepts like - If median if higher for a set than another set, Is it necessary for mean to be higher ? What is the deviation for a person in top 2% given SD and average ? etc Ok guys - Best of luck for all who are yest to take GMAT. Thanks to Erin for a wonderful site .... Erin should be proud that he is the person responsible for the happiness of a lot who are now pursuing their dream MBA... Hope even I would get the course I want Signing off .... Sujayath My practice test scores ....In the order I took ... POWERPREP - I Q-49 93% V-38 84% TOT - 710 95% PRINCETON - I Q - 46 V - 42 TOT - 710 PRINCETON - II Q - 37 V - 44 TOT - 650 (This test had some bug - It didn't count some of my correct answers ) PRINCETON - III Q - 45 V - 45 TOT - 720 PRINCETON - IV Q - 46 V - 44 TOT - 720 PAPER TEST - 25 710 Kaplan: I - 620 II - 680 800SCORE 700 Verbal - 36 Maths - 57 PAPER TEST 55: 740 Verbal - 42 Quants - 50 POWERPREP II 770 (I knew all the questions)

I took my test yesterday (first attempt). I got the score I expected. I think I am lucky as only few get the same score they expect. About the test AWA : I already went through most of the AWA topics and prepared outline for them. For issue, I got one from what I had prepared. Argument was a new one but easy. Overall, a breeze. QUANT: I had prepared very well for QUANT especially probability, mean/mode, SD, geometry, speed problems, profit/loss, permutation and combination, interest problems, number series, ratio proportions and work problems. I didn't get any questions from these areas except an easy one from Geometry and one very easy combination problem (Infact the question clearly indicated it is a combination problem and not permutation). 90% of my question were from Algebra and the remaining were from number properties and percentages. One question was from set theory. The questions were very easy that I thought I have screwed up in the first ten questions. In fact, easier than any sample test I had taken. I don't know whether I felt it so easy as I was well prepared for Algebra. Even then, I took a lot of time for first ten questions that I had to blindly guess for two or three questions. I also did educated guessing for two questions. If I had managed time properly, I could have scored well in Quant. Even the questions I guessed were simple word problems only but lengthy. I know how to solve them but didn't had time. I think I had more DS questions than problem solving. Verbal: I was so upset after the QUANT. I thought I had done very poorly because I got only very easy questions and because I had guessed for five questions although they were easy. In this tense mood, I made a mistake. I wanted to finish the test as soon as possible because of frustration, and I skipped the break. The earlier SC questions were little tricky. The first RC passage was vague but not hard. After that, I received very simple questions. SCs checked simple concepts like dangling modifiers and parallelism. I got very few CR - five or six only I think. They were simple too and one boldface - it was also easy. I again thought I had screwed up verbal as the questions were easy. I had a reason - My RCs had a maximum of 55 lines only. There were only three RCs. All were so simple in style and narration and questions were very direct. I was expecting four RCs with 75- 125 lines each if I had to cross 700. Most of the verbal questions were SCs. I managed time well in verbal. I finished with 5 minutes left. I was so upset before seeing the score as I received only easy questions. When I saw the score, I was very happy. I could have done better in QUANT but its okay. I am content with my score and am not going to retry. I am very good at Maths but not so in Verbal. But in real test, verbal has boosted my score. I attribute this success to TestMagic - especially to erin for his SC explanations. Even after all this, I still doubt how I got 730 inspite of easy questions and random guessing in QUANT. Can I beleive unofficial score or should I keep my fingers crossed till I see my official score ? Time Management: Before starting the test, I made two tables in my scratch paper. One for QUANT and another for verbal. For QUANT, I wrote from 1 to 37 on one coumn. Against it wrote from 73 to 0 decreasing in interval of 2 (73, 71, 69 ...). The idea is whenever I want to know the time I am lagging, I have to see the time from the table across the question number and compare it with the time remaining. Though I was prepared like this, I took too much of time for first ten questions. In the midst of test, I was lagging by 15 minutes and could not help but guess for five questions. For verbal, my table was as below. 0 - 75 7 - 63 14 - 50 21 - 38 28 - 25 35 - 13 41 - 0 I cultivated the habit of checking time for every 7 questions and it really helped me in the test. About me I am an Indian software engineer with little more than two years of experience. Have a GPA of 2.9/4 . I am planning to apply for National University Singapore, Nanyang Singapore and AIM Philippines. Could any of you from Singapore or Philippines tell me my chance of getting it. Can I apply now or should I wait for one more year? I also have Indian School of Business in my list. I will post about my preperation shortly.

Rumen, I believe the number of ways to divide 6 students in 3 groups of 2 is not 90 but 15. In your way, you include both AB CD EF and EF AB CD as seperate ways, but actually they are not.

Micknugget, Great explanation. So, the number of ways to divide 6 students into three groups of 2 each is 15. Right ? (leave the countries A,B and C part). Could you pelase explain what is the method to arrive at this answer of 15 ?

I also go for E. Rumen, I think C is not possible. For example, take 1,2,3,4 and 5. The Deviation is between 1 and 2. 7,14,21,28,35. The Deviation is between 7 and 14.

If 3 is raised to power of 4, or multiples of 4, we can note that the last digit is 1. That is, if 1 is added to that number, it will not be divisible by 10. If 3 is raised to power of 2, 6, 10, 14, 18 etc the last digit is 9. That is, if 1 is added to that number, it will be divisible by 10. a) It says that n is an odd integer. If n is a integer, the power will be a multiple of 4 and so the number will not be divisible by 10. So, this choice would suffice. b)It says that n is greater than 4, but it need not be an integer. For example, if n is a multiple of 4, the number will not be a multiple of 10. If n is something like, 18/4, the number will not be a multiple of 10. So, B will not suffice. So, My answer is A.

The key says answer is 90. I am not convinced with the answer and so I posted this here. My answer: 6 children divided into three groups of two each: 6C2 * 4C2 * 2C2 = 90. If each group has to represent one country out of three, there are 3! ways. So, total number of ways = 90 * 3! = 540. Please help me where I am getting wrong.:crazy: I cannot understand why vidya is subtracting 6 from 90 and also she has used permutation for forming groups (As rumen said combination should be used, as AB and BA are same group)

Yes. You are correct. The question should be reworded like below: If two houses are sold for same price. one sold for y% profit and another sold for y% loss, what is the total profit/loss ? Ans : Loss of (y/10)^2

In how many ways can 6 children be divided into three groups of two each. If each group has to represent one of three countries A,B and C, How many ways is it possible ?

Tobe, I think (8,7) will not satisfy condition 1. (remainder is 1) Could we opt for C as only a=8 and b=15 will satify both the conditions.

Vidya, A small correction .... I am not "She" but "He" .... :D:D:D

We know that 100! is a product of numbers from 1 to 100. How many of them are divisible by 3 = 33 So, we need a number 3^(50-33) = 3^17 to make it perfectly divisible. But we should also look for multiples of 9, as it has two 3s. No. of 9 in 100 = 11 We should also look for multiples of 27, as it has three 3s. No. of 27 in 100 = 3 Finally. lets not leave 81, which has four 3 No. of 81 in 100 = 1 No. of 3,9,27,81 in 100 = 33+11+3+1 = 48. The number multiplied to 100! to make it perfectly divisible = 3^(50-48) = 9 Since 9 is the answer, in the answer choices, look for least multiple for 9, which is 72.

I would go with D. Lets take A There are two possibilties - ROOT(69+N) + 1 = ROOT(94+N) ROOT(69+N) - 1 = ROOT(94+N) Squaring on both sides, both the possibilities lead to N = 75. Same with B also. Sushibird, Could you please provide the link to that chinese site.

Lenz, Sorry for a late reply. I was off for a day. This would have been a combination problem if 6 apples are to be distributed among 11 children. In that case, we have to select 6 children from 11 children. In our question, the number of apples in more than the number of children. So this is not a combination problem. The following are combination problems ... 1. Ways in which 2 students can sit in 5 seats (select 2 seats from five) 2. Ways in which 5 students can sit in 2 seats (select 2 students from 5) 3. Ways in which 3 works are allotted to 5 workers (select 3 workers from 5 ) But the following is not a combination problem ... 4. Ways in which 5 works are allotted to 3 workers (here one worker should do more than one work)

I am not good in explaining things, so I didn't take this question. But since nobody has answered this, let me take it. Whenever we encounter "rather than/ instead of" question, we have to look which maintains correct comparison (not apple vs orange) ... For this question, lets take "instead of ". Its always a good idea to expand ellipsis to check the comparison ... The seem allowance is overcast as the seam is sewn (instead of ) a separate process requiring deeper seam allowance. What is compared ? 1. The seem allowance is overcast as the seam is sewn 2. The seem allowance is overcast as a seperate process Look at second sentence ... Is overcast a seperate process or is overcast done in a seperate process ? "in a seperate process" is correct. We notice the "in" coming after "rather than" making "rather than in" the correct answer.

That is the formula used to find profit/loss. If there are two houses of same cost price, one sold for y% profit and another sold for y% loss, what is the total profit/loss ? Ans : Loss of (y/10)^2 Even if we don't know the formula, it is not difficult to solve this problem. It will take less than a minute to solve. (1997 sales) * (100+x)/100 * (100-x)/100 = (1997 Sales) * (100-9)/100 100^2 - x^2 = (100-9)100 10000 - X^2 = 10000 - 900 X^2 = 900 X =30

Daffy, Do you remember the following formula ? How many words can be formed with letters in the word DAFFY ? It is 5! / 2! (because F is occuring twice) The same formula is applied here taking 122222 as a string. That will give the number of ways this combination can occur (122222, 212222, 221222, 222122, 222212, 222221 ) Hope this helps . . .:D

I agree with Yogi. Ans is 10^102 (10^100)^(10^100) = 10^(100*10^100) = 10^(10^2*10^100) = 10^(10^102) k = 10^102

I don't think 462 is correct. 462 is just selecting 6 apples from 11 apples and not distributing 11 apples among 6. The way 11 apples could be distributed among 6: 1 2 2 2 2 2 6!/5! = 6 1 1 3 2 2 2 6!/3!2! = 60 1 1 1 3 3 2 6!/3!2! = 60 1 1 1 4 2 2 6!/3!2! = 60 1 1 1 1 4 3 6!/4! = 30 1 1 1 1 5 2 6!/4! = 30 1 1 1 1 1 6 6!/5! = 6 Total ways = 252 (This may not be correct if I had missed any other possiblity of splitting)