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I would suggest to get another shoot next month and try to improve a little your verbal score. Your quant is amazing, so with a couple of more points in the verbal part you will reach for sure a 620-650 score wich is competitive for some decent top 100 US schools.

I don't remember exactly but it depends on the section, in some parts there just 30 secs. in other parts 2 min. Anyway, don't worry about that, concentrate on your preparation.

There is also a timmer in the directions.

You have 10 minutes between each section to do whatever you want. You must be careful about that because after the 10 minutes the time of the section start no matter what happen in the world... You also have some minutes to read the directions when the test start. Yes, you can use the time of the directions to relax, as a matter of fact, I recommend you to do that, specially in the middle of the test. The same for AWA, some minutes for directions and then the 30 min. This 30 min. includes the time you have to read the prompt. Use GMATPREP to see the time. After 1st. AWA you will have a minute to read the directions again and then the 2nd. AWA starts. There are no breaks between each AWA.

Considering your practice score, I would suggest taking the real GMAT rather than wasting money and time in prep material. You will definitely get a 700+ score on real GMAT.

Please check http://www.www.urch.com/forums/just-finished-my-gmat/111904-4th-attemp-now-i-really-feel-depressed-please-advice.html Now, I'm going to my 5th attemp... GMAT is an unfair test that doesn't test your real abilities, but it is what we have so far, so go for it!!! Also GMAT is a kind of drug, you can't stop to think about it and you always have the sensation that you can do it better, thus you try to get another shot and continue to spend money and money... This drug ends when you got the score you desire.

My opinion is that if you got a 640 in GMATprep you will get something between 580-600 in real GMAT. Real GMAT is harder than GMATprep, specially the verbal part.

OA is C. I think that "expenditures" is countable so "less than" is incorrect here and we shoud use "lower than".

Al Although the government's expenditures on law suits involving tobacco companies amounts to a sum dramatically lower than that spent by tobacco companies, many believe that the government should allocate no more funds to a battle they perceive as pointless. (A) expenditures on law suits involving tobacco companies amounts to a sum dramatically lower than (B) expenditures on law suits involving tobacco companies amount to a sum dramatically less than © expenditures on law suits involving tobacco companies amount to a sum dramatically lower than (D) law suit expenditures regarding tobacco companies amount to a dramatically lower sum than (E) law suit expenditures against tobacco companies amounts to a sum dramatically lower than What do you think? According to Kaplan the correct answer is C, but it is correct to say "amount to a sum"? I think it is redundant, so all of the anwers are incorrect.

No, I don't. In fact, as I have admissions to some universities, I was relaxed in the test day.

Thanks Buddy, I will try your advice. I'm still confident that I can reach at least a 650. I have 2 1/2 months to work in that in order to meet the deadlines.

Hi mountain_man, as I mentioned earlier GMAT has become tougher, specially on the verbal part, so in my oppinion, OG 10 and 11 is not representative of the varbal part anymore. You will see the same type of questions but the level on real GMAT increased. I haven't taken Kaplan tests (just 1 verbal), but I think that now the level of kaplan in verbal is similar to real GMAT and GMATprep is biased 50 points, so if you get 35 in Gmatprep, your real score will be 28-30. This applies for scores below 40. Now, if you geto 40+ on the verbal part of GMATprep you will not have problems on real GMAT because your english level is high independently of the level of questions you have practice by using OG. However, you should take and use GMAT prep to get and idea of your possible score. If you score more o less 650, you should expect to get a real scroe of 600. If you sccore 700+ you will not have problems and you will score something similar. My theory is that the level of the verbal part increased in the range 600-650, so GMATprep is now biased.

Check this out for a complete revision of the new edition: Math: http://www.beatthegmat.com/knewton-early-analysis-of-the-og-12th-edition-math-section-t32841.html Verbal: http://www.beatthegmat.com/knewton-early-analysis-of-the-og-12th-edition-verbal-section-t32972.html

Thanks all for your advices. gmatsimple, I've already done all what you say except that I didn't take the GMAT sets.

Thanks for your advice adi_800. I completely agree with you that GMAT has vecome tough in verbal. I din't take manhattan tests because I read here that they are much difficult than real test. I also read that 1000 series are not representative of real questions, but you think opposite, so I'll probably try that sets. I study by using official material and I results didn't came to me so, maybe is time to study by using another approach.

Thanks for your response, you are right but my doubt is that I'been working hard on verbal, including taking private lessons, on average I solved correctly 75% of OG10 and OG11 so I don't know why I got such a mediocre score. I know that it quite difficult to achieve a 40 in verbal but, I'm looking for at least a 35. I got that score in Gmatprep, and as I noticed in the first post I got a 31 in one of the Kaplan test (3 days before de 4th attemp). So, I'm confused about how to start again...

Any advice, please?

Hi everybody, I finally did my 4th attempt on this test and I got just 590!!! Here are my results: 1) december 2007: 520 (v23, q38 awa5) 2) january 2008: 490 (v22, q35, awa5) 3) august 2008: 600 (v29, q44, awa5) 4) march 2009: 590 (v25, q46, awa ?) So, I've spent practically 2 years on this test (and a lot of money) and results didn't come to me. I just need at least a 650. The verbal part is really freaking me out!!! I'm starting to think that it doesn't have sense to continue wasting my life on this. As a matter of fact, I've been admitted on 4 universities, 3 in UK (top 200) , 1 in US (top 100), but without financial aid it will not be possible for me to support my studies so, I need at least a 650 on GMAT to compete for an scholarship. I did OG10, OG11, powerprep, GMATprep, 800score tests, manhattan online, some Kaplan tests, private lessons and other stuff a couple of times. My quantitative score was always 44 on GMATprep last month, so I got surprised to get a 46 in my fourth attemp. But my verbal part.... it killed me. I was getting pretty difficult questions so I supoosed that I was doing things good, but unfortunately, I got only a 25!!! I've never got such a low score at least in the last two motnhs when I started to prepare the test again. The last verbal test I did was a Kaplan and I got a 31 (it is supoosed that Kaplan is more difficult than real test, so I was confident...) I'm in the group of people that think that GMAT prep is not as accurate as real tests and that your score can decay 50 points, which is my case. Moroever, I think that the verbal part on the real test is now much more difficult than GMATprep. I feel that right now I'm much more prepared for the test and the kind of questions I got on the real test in my first attemp were much easier than the questions I faced this month. Probably, if I had the preparation I have now, I would have got a 650 on my fisrt attemp... In conclusions, I think that the prep. material (OG 10 and 11) are not representative of the real test level anymore. These questions are easier at least for the verbal part. Thus, Gmat prep contains questions from OG10 and 11, so GMAT prep is also out of date. For math, I suggest to be concentrated on the last 100 questions of CR and PS, the first questions are a waste of time if you have a quant background. Now, I think that if you got 700+ on GMAT prep, you will not have troubles on real GMAT (there are houndreds of posts here to show that). But if your Gmat prep is in between 620-670, consider the possibility of getting a 580-640 on real GMAT. I think that GMAT prep is biased in that range of scores. The questions you will see on the real test will be more difficult for that range than the question you saw on GMATprep. In the end, I would like to mention that, at least for me, this test is unfair (I think that long before I started my preparation, so my scores didn't change my opinion). Why is it unfair? Well, on my point of view, a smart exam has to have a very important feature: "the capacity to teach you". That is, after taking a good exam you must learn, after all, this is the aim when a student finish a course (I'm know what I'm taking about because I'm a profesor). Beleive me that GMAT doens't care about what you have learned. They just give questions based on and arbitrary algorithm that is a black box. What kind of smart examn is that? Moreover, after taking the GMAT 4 times, I don't know what are my weak points on verbal because there is no feedback, you don't know what questiones were wrong in order to focus on that and improve your score. I don't know why such a kind of thing is allowed, the consumer must have the right to know about that. For example, in my case I know that I need to improve my verbal part but the whole part? I don't know what to do, it appears that doing more questions is a waste of time. I've been focused on each of the questions I got wrong, analysing and reading the correct answers, but again I failed.

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These figures come from the offical score report I received in different moments I did GMAT.

I got 600 but with 29 in verbal and 44 in quant. Why do I get the same score than you with a different verbal score? In the world of GMAT everything is possible...

Have you noticed that percentiles have changed? For example: Verbal: ___Before Now >46 99% 99% 45 98% 98% 44 97% 97% 43 96% 96% 42 95% 95% 41 93% 93% 40 89% 89% 39 88% 87% 38 84% 83% 37 82% 81% 36 80% 78% Quant: __Before Now 51 99% 99% 50 95% 94% 49 89% 88% 48 85% 84% 47 81% 79% 46 79% 77% 45 77% 75% 44 72% 70% 43 70% 68% AWA ___Before Now 6___89% 87% 5.5_83% 80% 5__ 61% 55% This figures show that people have improved their performance on GMAT. Percentiles are important because some schools mention specifically a minimun percentile, so we have to do better now to reach the same target. Moreover, if you report past scores, it will be shown current percentiles instead of the percentiles available when you did GMAT.

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Powerprep is the older gmat test administred by ets. Link: Gorilla Test Prep | Download Free GMAT Practice Exams

Thanks for your answer. As a matter of fact, I personaly found both test questions pretty similar each other...