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sorry, the group is gmattutor@yahoogroups.com Go to groups.yahoo.com and search for gmattutor. Akshay

I dont think anyone in this world is stupid, except when they think they are stupid. And intelligence is a hyped up attribute. If math is your problem, then what you need is not a set of new classes, though they might help too, but a new attitude. You should start liking adding numbers, guessing solution patterns to problems, enjoying balls abnd boxes games, and such. In essence, you should enjoy the idea of comming up with solutions to number problems, and stop using calculator for a while. Slowly but surely you will pick the ability. I verbal is your problem, solution is same. You should enjoy reading, become excited with sentence corrections, and find CR analyzing thrilling. Eessentially, you should enjoy the type of problems GMAT asks. If you dont enjoy them and take it as a pain you will have tough time getting above 700.

Just as I expected, I received a 5 on AWA, not bad considering I just prepared for 3 hours for the AWA.

AWA: Please remember that the following template is just to get an understanding of how to build your essays. These templates are from Arco Essays for GMAT. You can be plagiarising if you use them verbatim. So just use them to organise your thoughts during essay writing and then present your essay in your own fashion. For example, my essays didn't use a single line out of these templates, but my essays' structure was helped by thinking in terms of the outlines given below. Good Luck. Issue Template: Whether _____________ depends on _______. In my view _________. The main reason for my view is _______. For example, _______. Also, _______. Finally ______. Another reason is ______. Specifically, _______. Admittedly, ______. However, _______. Some might argue ______. Yet, others might argue _______. However, ______. In sum I agree ______. However, _______. On balance, _________. Argument Template: The author concludes that _____ because ______. The author's line of reasoning is that ______. First of all, _____ is based upon the questionable assumption that _____. However, ____ and more over ____. Secondly, the suthor assumes that ___. However, ___. It seems equally reasonable to assume that ____. Finally, the author fauils to consider ___. For example, ___. The author's argument lacks ____. In conclusion, to convince me that ___, the author would have to present evidence that ___. Without the additional evidence I am not convinced that ___.

Thanks. GRE: I took this in 95 (waaaaaaaay back): V 620, Q 800, A 770. I expected to do better in verbal of GMAT but I screwed up. Quant: I sincerely feel you dont need more than [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] practice. I think the only difference between 50 and 51 is luck. But for good Q overall you definitely need practice, not necessarily timed practice. SC: Good grammar definitely helps. I have also noticed that you will do better on SC if you first get the message the sentence is trying to convey and then attempt the corretion. CR: My experience has been the same for both CR and SC, understand the message before you solve the message. RC: Focus on structure. My approach was to skim the RC first to get the topic being discussed and then read the Passage to get what is being said about the topic, while remembering which para has details about what. This helped me. AWA: I copied the templates from ARCO's GMAT Essays, you can find this at nearest book stores. I will post them once I find the notes where I copied them. I think taking as many timed tests as you can helps. Do not take Kaplan before the test, it will demoralize you, the tests are crap they lack coherency in passages and their answers quote sentences which are absent in the corresponding passages. ETS tests are good, so are powerprep, and Arco. If you guys are not aware, join the mailing list of gmattutor@yahoo.com, this is a very active and very helpful list for GMAT. It will help a lot, more than any coaching.

Hi, Thank you all for helping me in my preparation by posting and answering questions. Special thanks obviously to Erin for being a good samritan and bringing us all together for our similar goals. Overall it was a satisfactory experience. But I believe that I can take my verbal a notch or two up, it appears so disgusting beside the quant score, so I will attempt again in a month or two. Australian cricket great, Greg Chappell said, "On match day I would take a few slips catches and waited until it felt right but then I'd get out of there before I started dropping them and wondering where I was going wrong," this explains when one should end preparation for a test. I broke this approach by taking Kaplan as my last tests, now I use Kaplan book as my toilet paper. As far as the test goes, none of the sections was different from [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. I was able to finish all the sections within time. As soon as I went in, I jotted down the templates for AWI and AWA. Then I made the appended Quant Time Table for my quant section, and Verbal Time Table for my verbal section. I got this idea from Sujayath's post, thanks sujayath. These timetables help you to keep track of time and adjust your speed without having to calculate the time questions ratio frequesntly. After that I picked the Cornell, Duke, Dartmouth, Brigham Young, and London School of Economics. Then just sat down and let relaxed untill I felt comfortable to start my writing section. My Analysis of Issue topic was based on whether organizations should prefer advice from insiders over advice from outside experts. My Analysis of Argument topic was the advisability for all companies to emulate a specific company's approach to increase its managers' productivity. I didnt use the templates verbatim, but they pretty much helped me in maintaining the focus on the issue and not divert and deliver my rants on corporate causes for social injustices. I am expecting around a 5 on both. I didnt prepare at all for AWA section, but one day before the test I looked at the templates given in ARCOs example Essays book. I was worried about these sections, I took my GRE last year and screwed these sections big time, but they cam out OK, though I didnt get a chance to read them before submitting. After the writing I turned in my scratch paper, and took new ones, so had to redo the tables. And then I let the time pass by untill the system expired the break time. Quant was simple. Questions were very much [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] like, infact simpler than [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip], I would say. I got a couple of simple combinatorial questions, no permutation questions, one probability quation based on combination, one set question, no set theory questions, one statistics question, one quadratic equation question, one coordinate geometry distance between two points question, a lot of number questions, one modulus question, a couple of quotient remainder questions, four or five descriptive questions, 2 year-wise-profit-loss questions and such. [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] is more than sufficient to solve these, but the more practice you have the more confident you will be in sticking with your answer and moving on to the next question, otherwise you will spend a lot of time verifying your answers and find yourself under time pressure very fast. On the whole reached the end of quant with 10 min left. I solved the last question but didnt submit the answer and let the time roll by. In the meanwhile I went out relaxed and came back. I submitted the anser in the last 10 sec, wonder why I delayed so long though. It was fun to keep staring at the time winding down and then clcking the submit butting at the final moments. I let the break-time roll again. In the break I made a bunch of "A B C D E" rows, just to make sure that I have them if I have to play around with POE on some tricky questons. In the end I didnt need those columns. SCs, RCs and CRs were very much [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] kind, no Kaplan type BS. Actually I took a bunch of Kaplan tests two days before the test and made 18 to 20 mistakes in each, this brough my Moral down completely, since I was doing [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] verbal decently well. But I did the SC of [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] once again yesterday and that sort of brought my confidence back. There was only one bold face. I was doing verbal well too, untill a bunch of new huys came in to take their tests and started tyiping vigorosly for thir essays. Right at that time I was facing RCs and this caused a break in my concentration, I guess one shouldnt let that disturb oneself. Regards, Akshay Quant Time Table 6 1:03 12 51 18 39 24 26 30 14 37 0 Verbal Time Table 7 1:03 14 51 21 39 28 26 35 14 42 0

Number of units: Q. Selling price: SP Cost Price per unit: CP Total sales: S Total Cost: C S = Q * SP C = Q * CP Profit: P = S - C = Q(SP - CP) Originally- P1 = Q1(SP1 - CP1). Now- SP2 = 1.1 SP1. S2 = Q2 * SP2 = 1.1 * Q2 * SP1 = .9S1 = .9 Q1 SP1 ==> Q2 = 9/11 Q1. P2 = (9/11) * Q1 * (1.1SP1 - CP2) Change in profits = P1 - P2 = Q1(SP1 - CP1) - (9/11) * Q1 * (1.1SP1 - CP2) = Q1 * (.1SP1 - CP1 + (9/11) CP2) = (Q1/11) * (1.1SP1 - 11CP1 + 9 CP2) Percentage Profit Change = PPC = ((P1 - P2) /P1) * 100 = ((100/11) * (1.1SP1 - 11CP1 + 9 CP2))/(SP1 - CP1). As per given info a)The cost price remains constant. (CP2 = CP1) PPC = ((100/11) * (1.1SP1 - 11CP1 + 9 CP1))/(SP1 - CP1) = ((100/11) * (1.1SP1 - 2CP1)/(SP1 - CP1). Insufficient. b)The cost price increased by 10%. (CP2 = 1.1CP1) PPC = ((100/11) * (1.1SP1 - 11CP1 + 9.9 CP1))/(SP1 - CP1) = ((100/11) * (1.1SP1 - 1.1CP1)/(SP1 - CP1) = +10. Sufficient. Answer: B.

Cant say. (a, b) can be (8, 7) an also (8, 15)

I would agree with A. Goal: family policy should decrease stress levels. Reason: such laws would lead to happier, better-adjusted families. Hidden assumption is that stress causes unhappiness and poor adjustment. A states this explicitly.

E. I: x = -.48 or +.48: insuff II: y = -1 or +1: insuff. I + II: (xy, x^2y^2) = (.48, .217) or (-.48, -.217) or (.48, -.217) or (-.48, .217). Therefore inuff.

1: x ^ 2 = 69 + N, (x+1) ^ 2 = 94 + N: ==> N = 75. suff. 2: x ^ 2 = 94 + N, (x+1) ^ 2 = 121 + N ==> N = 75. suff. Akshay

B: One in five Americans saves society millions of dollars.

Thanks Kuriang, I should multiply the formula I showed with 2*2 to account for the remaining two needing to turn values of 5 or 6 each. Then my formula matches yours. Thanks for correcting. Akshay

Congrats Kuriang. I agree nothing but blood and sweat is the way to roses. For me the Probability question -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'A die numbered one through six is rolled 5 times. What is the probability that on exactly 3 rolls the number of dots showing is no greater than 4 ?' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is not as straight forward as the next one you posted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A player rolls a die and receives the same number of dollars as the number of dots on the face that turns up. What should the player pay for each roll if he wants to make a profit of one dollar per throw of the die in the long term ?? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am solving the first question like this probability = ((4 * 4 * 4) (4C2 + 3C2 + 2C2))/6^5. Is this right? Akshay

I cant find it on yahoo, is it possible for you to share it with me? Regards, Akshay