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Look here, whoever you are. Why do you react like that? At least you know you have to stop considering your post are made out of bad taste and breeding. You're the only one rubbing it to your own face. If you are scared, keep it to yourself. Where are these angst and bitterness coming from? And did you even count how many question marks and periods you made. Don't do that in TOEFL iBT in case you get an approval for FPGEE. I will be so happy for you if you get your most desired ATT at the soonest time.

FPGEC Application bulletin - "As a candidate for the FPGEC Certification Program, you must have graduated from a recognized or accredited school of pharmacy of a foreign country or jurisdiction. The FPGEC requires that if you graduated prior to January 1, 2003, you must have completed at least a four-year pharmacy curriculum at the time of graduation to be considered for FPGEC Certification. However, if you graduated on or after January 1, 2003, you must have completed at least a five-year pharmacy curriculum at the time of graduation. Coursework and internships completed after graduation will not be considered in determining the minimum required curriculum length. Post-baccalaureate degrees will not be considered except under limited circumstances where the degree obtained and coursework completed to obtain the degree satisfactorily show that the candidate obtained experience in patient care in a clinical pharmacy practice setting. Consideration of postbaccalaureate degrees and whether they may be applicable to determine the minimum required curriculum length will be made on a case-by-case basis at the sole discretion of the FPGEC. The change from a four-year to a five-year educational curriculum requirement has enabled the FPGEC Certification Program to be consistent with the revised standards of US pharmacy school curriculum." You maybe right - there is hope still - under limited circumstances and is treated on a case-by-case basis. Who knows, yours might be disapprove or under slim chances - allowed. Just keep all your fingers and toes crossed till FPGEC made a decision for you and share it here so we'll know.[clap] Going back to my first post - My advice to those who plan to practice Pharmacy in US is to enroll in a Pharmacy school which offers a 5 year pharmacy curriculum. Or if they are currently enrolled in a 4-year Pharmacy program, find themselves a school that offers a 5-year curriculum and transfer. So they will not have the same dilemma of getting an approval to sit for FPGEC and save time from taking additional coursework.

Am I wrong? If some information I posted are wrong. Then please state the reference that you may have about the required degree after January 2003. Because if we based the information on FPGEC's application bulletin, what you say is otherwise. Yes, I've read some post about a few people who were able to sit for the test BUT they were not issued the certificate. In if you think, in my twisted way, that I am trying to scare people who uses this forum - I do apologize but that is not my intention. What I am trying to point out here is, as of the moment, none of the remedial courses that foreign Pharmacy schools offer seem to fit FPGEC's educational requirements. Always remember that after an applicant pass the FPGEE, there is a period of review, and it is the time when committee members make a deliberation of what is acceptable or not. So make sure you do have references for the statistics you've mentioned and let us not give false hope to anyone here. P3ace H0-Dyay.:D

After January 2003, FPGEC - NABP, requires foreign Pharmacy graduates to have 5-year Pharmacy degree. They don't accept post bachelors degree, such as MS. Pharmacy or post bachelors PharmD. It must either be a 5 year clinical Pharmacy or 6 year PharmD. Educational Credential Evaluators is the only education credentialing agency accredited by NABP to determine US equivalent of a foreign degree. For foreign graduates who are eligible for US licensing, there are three test you need to pass. FPGEE, NAPLEX (Stae board) and MPJE (pharmacy law). You also need to pass TOEFL iBT with a 26 score in speaking (btw Americans only scored an average of 23 in speaking section based on a study).Prior to sitting for NAPLEX most States require 1500 hours of internship. My advice to those who plan to practice Pharmacy in US is to enroll in a Pharmacy school which offers a 5 year pharmacy curriculum. Once a 4 year Pharmacy degree is conferred, remember that you will not be qualified to sit for the FPGEE even if you acquire an MS or post Bachelors PharmD. The rule states that after 2003, foreign graduates must have a 5 year Pharmacy degree. if you were awarded with a 4 year BS Pharm, there is a school in California which offers 3 year International post Bachelors PharmD (Western University of Health Science, accredited by ACPE). Upon completion of this program, you bypass FPGEE and can directly apply for NAPLEX. As of to date there is only one school that is accredited by ACPE outside USA and that is the Lebanese American University in Labanon.:tup:

Awesome, seems like all of us pass the test. I got 103 too. It took me 2 months of studying while working and 15 days of intensive review, after arriving in Chicago from my country as in 6 A.M. till 10 PM.:tup: It was my first time. What I can say is that the questions were tricky but if one does their homework, you won't mess up. Just try to read everything that you can. Study not just to pass a test but to gain knowledge that will become innate to us. Good luck to the next test takers!

Hello to all Fellow Pinoy Pharmacist, I also applied to sit for the FPGEE, I didn't use a courier to mail those documents. I was approved to take the December 2008 but decided to move the test this April 14. Just send them unopened. They do accept regular post mail but the only difference is the delivery time and the cost. A regular mail could take about 1 and half month to reach NABP but its affordable, whereas if delivered by a courier, it will only take three days. Good luck!

To everyone, You can get some good advice regarding the TOEFL test at the dedicated forum for TOEFL at http://www.www.urch.com/forums/toefl/ :tup:

:rolleyes: To Everyone, The TOEFL iBT and Paper-based TOEFL are still available. The TOEFL CBT has been discontinued since 2007. Paper-based TOEFL is only given in a specified schedule for the year while iBT can be scheduled anytime. If a candidate will take the Paper-based TOEFL, he/she must also take the TSE as a requirement by the FPGEC. You can verify the information by visiting the ETS website at www.ets.org Good luck!

News We read from several sources that the weak economy continues to reduce retail prescription sales and the use and access to healthcare services generally. We’re watching the ADI closely because these changes are likely to ultimately reduce the demand for pharmacist services. So far, despite inquiries, we have not heard that pharmacist positions are being reduced. As we note below, however, the ADI continues to fall. We will all be watching closely in the coming months. September 2008 ADI Summary. The ADI for September 2008 was 3.94, down from 3.96 last month. One year ago, the ADI was at 4.13—a much higher level of unmet demand than seen for this September. This month one state was at the highest level of shortage or unmet demand which is “5”—Wisconsin. North Carolina and Arkansas were close behind at 4.50. Last month two states were at the “5” level. There were 42 states at the “4” level (some difficulty filling open positions). There were 8 states at the “3” level (balance between supply and demand): Hawaii, North Dakota, Montana, Rhode Island, Oklahoma, Delaware, Michigan and Nebraska. Last month 8 states (mostly different) were at this level. There were no states at the “2” level or “1” level (demand is less or much less than the pharmacist supply available). Overall, 93.3% of the U.S. population was residing in states where filling open positions was at least moderately difficult in September 2008—up substantially from 89.2% last month. Regional and Divisional Demand Indices. This month the South had the highest level of unmet demand at 4.05, down from 4.08 last month. The West was next at 4.03, down from 4.09 last month. The Northeast was next at 3.88, up substantially from 3.76 last month. The Midwest was lowest at 3.74, down from 3.79 last month. The substantial gap which we have been observing between the West/South and the Midwest/Northeast was again apparent but less this month with the rise of unmet demand in the Northeast. The division with the highest unmet demand this month was the West South Central division (AR, LA, OK, TX) at 4.19, up from 4.15 last month. Next was the East South Central (AL, KY, MS, TN) at 4.15, down from last month’s 4.24. The East North Central division (IL, IN, MI, OH, WI) had the lowest level of unmet demand at 3.73, down from 3.80 last month. There were large variations within the division with Wisconsin having the highest national ADI while Michigan was among the 8 states at the “3” level. The West North Central division (IA, KS, MN, MO, ND, SD and NE) was next at 3.75, the same as last month. Values for all regions and divisions are on the ADI Website, Aggregate Demand Index - Western University of Health Sciences. State Demand Indices. In September 2008, there was 1 state with a demand level rounding to "5= high demand”—Wisconsin. There were 42 states at the “4” level (some difficulty filling open positions) and 8 states at the “3” level (balance between supply and demand): Hawaii, North Dakota, Montana, Rhode Island, Oklahoma, Delaware, Michigan and Nebraska. There were no states at the “2” level or “1” level (demand is less or much less than the pharmacist supply available). Read all individual state ratings on the state map at the ADI Website, Aggregate Demand Index - Western University of Health Sciences. Demand Indices by Population. In September 2008, 1.9% of the U.S. population lived in states at the "5" level—down from 3.3% last month. With 42 states in the “4” category this month, the percent population at the “4” level was 91.4%, up from 85.9% last month. 6.7% lived in states at the "3" level—down from 10.9% last month. 0% lived in states at the “2”, and 0% at the "1" level. Overall, in September 2008, 93.3% of the U.S. population was residing in states where filling open positions was at least moderately difficult. Demand Indices by Practice Setting. This month's community pharmacy demand index was 3.52, down from 3.69 last month and falling for the first time in 3 months. The demand for institutional pharmacist positions was 3.91, almost the same as last month’s 3.92. Integrated health systems with both institutional and community positions, which generally experience higher demand, were at 4.70, the same as last month. Thank you for your continued participation and interest in the Aggregate Demand Index project. Katherine Knapp Katherine K. Knapp, PhD Professor and Dean College of Pharmacy, Touro University - California 1310 Johnson Lane, Mare Island Vallejo, CA 94592 Phone: 707.638.5221; FAX: 707.638.5266 Email: kknapp@touro.edu or kkknapp@msn.com http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/images/1pxgold.gif Explanation of Demand Categories http://www.pharmacymanpower.com/images/1pxgold.gif Data and information are provided for informational purposes only. Neither the Pharmacy Manpower Project nor any of its affiliates shall be liable for any errors or delays in the content or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.

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Hi Chun, I called the NABP today. Don't worry because if you were unable to register last October 24, 2008 your records will automatically be forwarded for the June 2008. You will received another registration letter for June 2008. Here's the contact details of NABP: National Association of Boards of Pharmacy® 1600 Feehanville Drive • Mount Prospect, IL 60056 Tel: chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_l.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/famfamfam/us.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/arrow.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gifchrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/space.gif847/391-4406chrome://skype_ff_toolbar_win/content/cb_transparent_r.gif Fax: 847/391-4502

Based on previous post about re-scheduling the test, there should be no problem with that. Your payment will not be forfeited since the letter you received is a form to register for the December 2008 FPGEE. I called NABP about rescheduling the test on June 2009 before and they just instructed me not to register online or return the letter accomplished with details. You will again receive a registration letter next year for the June 2009 FPGEE and that is your last chance to take the test. If you are still unable to take the test on June, that's the time when your payment will be forfeited. You can call NABP to validate this information. I hope this helps.;)

Has anyone read this book? APHA's Complete Review For Pharmacy Produced in cooperation with the American Pharmacists Association, the National Professional Society of Pharmacists. Please post your comment or review about this book and if it will help us in preparing for the FPGEE. Thanks :tup:

Hi foreignpharmacist, Yes, you may sit for the FPGEE. The only restriction for H4 visa holders is that they can't work. Your visa needs to be adjusted first. Hope this helps.:D

Try Clicking on the link below FPGEE study guide for preparation of FPGEE test | Pharmainfo.net :rolleyes::doh: