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I seriously doubt it

I assume you're an international applicant and you're going to try the 4th session, which means results should be out May 6th see here

thanks! I don't know the terms of the agreement, but students in Yale this year didn't mention problems of any kind in their reports. Then I guess the agreement with Minnesota is roughly the same as that with Yale. I'm not sure though. thanks again!

sorry if I quote myself, but maybe you missed my post, as it was last on its page :] :hmm:

hi dsdoodle, I have a question not entirely related to the PhD program in UMN. so I've heard Bocconi University in italy has reached an agreement with UMN similar to that established with Yale (=some, if any, Msc students from Bocconi spend their 2nd year in UMN attending 1st year of phd in economics). could you give me your opinion about it, if you have one? :P

I am sorry, what?

bocconi offers tuition waiver + €3500 or tuition waiver + housing, no TA, to be confirmed for 2nd year (confirmed if gpa>28) bgse offers tuition waiver + €5300(gross) for half TAship (30hours, but actual amount would obviously be much larger)

well, not really, but is there a significant difference in the micro departments of the 2 unis? I've seen there's some experimental econ activity in bgse and I know there is some in bocconi, too. what I'm interested in is the TAship part compared to a scholarship without any TA position (even though one could apply for a TA position on the 2nd year of Bocconi Msc...) also, is a TA position a preferential way to get a good LOR in absence of a final thesis? and do professors in barcelona usually write good LORs?

Hi all sorry if I bring up this thread again.I just wanted to know how you guys compare the 2 offers I received from Bocconi and BGSE. Bocconi gave me full merit award (tuition waiver + $) and I thought that I was going to accept this offer. However I received an email today from Barcelona which basically told me they're now offering me a half-TAship. How does a TAship usually work? I really did not expect a new offer from barcelona and I was happy with my scholarship in Bocconi. So now what?

1000 euros/month? I spend and you can survive with much less, I guess ;-) milan is expensive but not that expensive. I spent much more each month in NYC, even with the very favorable exchange rate.

I don't know... but let's see .... from here http://www.unibocconi.it/wps/wcm/resources/file/eb1f254918d7be1/3%20-%20ESS%202008.pdf you can see that the majority of students studied in Bocconi undergraduate programs (>80%). now this number should be lower in 2008-2009 and subsequent years, but will still be very high. Then, this year there will be say 100 students from Bocconi applying for Econ MSc. All these applicants must have participated in the selections which were available to them: either the first session (with mandatory GRE/GMAT with quant score >760) or the second session, with deadline april 30th. There is only one thing here that may help: from what I've heard there's not a large number of students trying with the first session. Keep in mind that the first session is restricted to those having a GRE/GMAT score. All this above was to underline that there shouldn't be many students applying in the first session, and this means that the majority of students will be admitted with the second session: April. To this, you should add the fact that the requirements for the scholarship are not the same as those for the admission process. The scholarship requires higher scores, so maybe there will even be somebody who has applied in the first session with a score that is higher than the admission requirement but lower than the scholarship requirement and so is left out from selection. All this to say that I think that there will be scholarships even for the last 2 sessions. I've also heard that not all scholarships were assigned last year... (though maybe some of those who got it chose to go to some other university) anyway the only good news that I heard from a very good source is that 1/3 of scholarships are assigned to MSc Econ. (which is very good news if you consider that there are 170 econ students out of a total 1785!) but other than that, I'm no insider.

well I haven't talked to anybody in the MSc ESS program, but from what I know a GPA of >28 means being in the top 10% other things I know: there are a total of 70 scholarship which are divided among ALL MSc courses in Bocconi, but 1/3 of them are reserved to the Economics MSc (170 students) So if all scholarships were assigned (but bocconi has no obligation to assign all scholarships), around 23 of them would be assigned to the Economics Msc Being 23/170 = 13.5%, if only 10% of students will have a GPA>28, then somebody will have to pay for the second year. I think top 10% is rather difficult, if not impossible, for somebody who has not studied in Bocconi before (unless you're a genius). In a class of 85 students you should basically be among the 8 best. 17 people considering english and italian classes together. I know who is applying to the MSc here and I think there's a lot of people deserving the scholarship. undergrads here are aware (today more than in the past) that Bocconi offers great opportunities and are thus more willing to continue with the MSc here rather than moving abroad. this makes it even more competitive. I think if I received a scholarship it would be very difficult for me to have it confirmed for the second year. btw, BGSE replied only 1 week after I submitted my application! and one of my classmates got even a TA offer (1 month ago). even he is waiting for Bocconi! and I think there's other people, too, in our exact same situation. as for BGSE. I was wondering... this year's class is composed by 48 people. how many got a full tuition waiver? does somebody know? I've also seen that there are a lot of italians in their programs.... they're as many as the spanish. I was rather surprised when I saw that...

Hi everybody. I absolutely love this forum and now I need you guys to give me some advice. I am an italian Bocconi undergrad about to finish my 3-year bachelor course in Economics. Two days ago I received an email telling me I have been accepted to Barcelona GSE 's MSc in Economics with full tuition waiver. I still don't know the result of my application to Bocconi Msc Economics, but I am pretty sure I will be admitted to the MSc Economics. The question is: with or without scholarship (=tuition waiver)? Bocconi's scholarship is basically a tuition waiver for the 1st year and is confirmed for the 2nd year only if you have a GPA of 28/30. I initially thought that the best route towards a good PhD program would include 2 additional years in Bocconi, hopefully with scholarship. I never considered that BGSE could actually give me a tuition waiver. I applied because I wanted to have some options, but I still thought Bocconi was the best possible choice. BGSE requires 500 euros to be paid in advance and the deadline for me is april 25 Bocconi should be finished with the admissions by march 31 , but needs 2 more weeks to assign the scholarships. This means that I won't have much time to decide between Bocconi and BGSE and this is why I am asking you guys to give me some advice. Now that BGSE offers a full tuition waiver I am tempted to go there. So what do you think about all this? Scenarios: 1) BGSE [1 year] with tuition waiver vs Bocconi [2 years] with scholarship or 2) BGSE [1 year] with tuition waiver vs Bocconi [2 years] without scholarship if Bocconi gives me a scholarship I would probably stay in Milan, but as far as the second option is concerned, I think I'd go to Barcelona and save 20k euros. finally, I don't have that much information about BGSE, so what do you think about it? from what I've understood the Msc Economics program is entirely from Pompeu Fabra (others are from the other universities composing BGSE) so I guess in my case BGSE = UPF. am I wrong? thank you!