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    Cool Tips for high score in speaking....got 27 insteade of 23

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    Hi all,
    I had this posted in" just finished TOEFL" but I posted here again to share it may be in a better way...

    Well, I first took the exam in 2006 and did very well except for speaking 23, then I took the test 2 times in 2007 with the same score 23...I felt very upset and thought I would never make it...so I forgot all about TOEFL until this year and I know this is too late so do not do like me, u should never lose hope...any way...
    I only signed up for the test 10 days earlier and this is when I started to practice so even if your test is very soon, you have plenty of time to practice....
    I only did practice for the speaking part and a litte bit for the writing part...

    For the speaking part...
    I only watched videos posted on youtube..it is really a very great web site and has all what you need... i think that the narrator is just the same as the one in the real test so it is a great opportunity to know what to expect.... SO THANKS YOU TUBE AND ALL THE POPLE WHO POSTED USEFUL THINGS FOR US............
    AND MOST IMPORTANT I found out that in order to get a high score in the speaking part...it is not enough that you are able to speak good english, I do!!!! and when I talk to people even native speakers, they think that I speak very good English but when it comes to the test, I used to get 23,,, now I realized that you need to answer in A CERTAIN FORMAT and once you practice, you will master speaking with this format without knowing that you actually do...

    Here are some of the videos that I watched....
    YouTube - TOEFL Speaking Improve your Score on Question 6
    YouTube - TOEFL Speaking question 6 part 1 (4 samples)
    YouTube - iBT TOEFL Speaking Questions 1 and 2 Tips
    YouTube - iBT TOEFL Speaking Question 4 (3 Examples)
    YouTube - TOEFL speaking question 5 part 2 (4 samples)
    YouTube - TOEFL SPEAKING question 4 (3 samples)
    YouTube - TOEFL SPEAKING question 4 part 2 (3 samples)

    There are more vidoes on the right side of the page, you can see them too...
    I practiced for about 5 hours a day, watching these video, learning the tips and then test my self by using a timer to read and prepare and then record my answer few times for each question to improve it..and when u listen to any of these videos, u need to listen to one question at a time and then answer it because some of these videos have 5 or more questions so do not try to listen to the answers,, you need to practice answering on your own before u listen to the sample answer posted.....
    When u listen back to what you have recorded, then u will check if you have followed a certain format or not, did u say enough resoning, any grammatical mistakes, then u will pay attention with more practice.....

    On a piece of paper, I wrote down the certain general format for each question, then I practiced using it when I watched these videos..........

    Question One:
    In my view,.................... for a few reasons, First,........................... for example (here, try to mention something personal from your previous experience, if you can't REMEBER: FAKE IT UNTIL YOU MAKE IT,,yes, us imagination)
    Second,..............................for example......................................That' s why .......

    if you think that the question does not fit in this beginning sentence (In my view..) at least you still need to mention two reasons,,,


    Question TWO:
    I experienced a new format (do you agree or disagree with the following statement....)

    You need to start by stating your opinion clearly ( I agree that ..................... or I disagree that................ for the the following reasons, first, ............................. for example........., second,............................... for example............... that's why I agree/disagree that........)

    for example. do u agree that people should wait until they become above 30 years old before getting married (I just made this question up, but you would expect similar general topics)

    Sample answer: I do agree that people should wait until they become above 30 years old before getting married for the following reasons; first, younger people are not yet ready. for example, they need to finish their study and get a stable job, otherwise they won't be able to afford their kids needs financialy and emotionally. Second, people need to be mature to able to stabilize their marriage, for example, those who get married at youger age tend to fight more often which may raise divorce rate

    Question Three
    Usually reading text about certain school ad, then listening to a conversation between two students,,the question is about the ad and what was the Man's/woman's opinion and why?

    Simply read the text in 45 seconds (I don't write any thing until I finish reading, u want to make sure that u have read it all..this one is easy to remember so do not worry if u did not have time to write down any notes) but for the listening part, u need to write down simple notes while listening:

    woman/man likes/dislikes
    reasons: 1st.................... ex...............
    2nd................... ex..............

    When u speak, You need to start like this:

    The school ad is about ........... The woman/man likes/dislikes the idea for the following reasons, first, she/he thinks that.........for example....., second or she/he also thinks that....... for example......... that's why she/he........

    IN ALL QUESTIONS: PAY ATTENTION TO THE GRAMMER, IF YOU USE PRESENT TENSE, THEN KEEP USING IT, IF YOU USE PAST TENSE, THEN KEEP USING IT

    I feel tired but I will continue for the other questions in my next post.....let me know what you think about what I have posted and I will be happy to answer any questions except if u ask me about what were the real questions that we had in the test as u all know, we are not allowed to.....
    Good Luck to you all
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    congratulation for your high score, and thanks for submitting help.

    wish you the best!

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    Thanks again, Rainy-cloud!

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    Sorry because I wanted to reply to your message you sent me but I couldn't so I am going to try again....
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    congratulation for your high score, and thanks for submitting help.

    wish you the best!
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    thanks for attention!
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    OKay, sorry that it took me few days to continue but I was a litte bit busy....Any way...

    For Question number four:
    You have 45 seconds to read certain passage then a lecture to listen to..for me, I find it difficult to read and take notes in 45 second so again I read first until the end then write if i have any time left, in this one, it is more difficut than Q3 because that one is realtively easier if you did not take notes while reading but this one you need to write down the main word and simple definition from what you have read..try to practice!!!
    (when you take notes, divide the paper into two columns first one summarize reading, second one for listening)
    I found this video very useful..
    YouTube - iBT TOEFL Speaking Question 4 (3 Examples) which directs you to this web site: NOTEFULL.

    I practiced how you need to formualte the answer and make sure that I ponited to what the passage is about and then CLEARLY pointed to what the lecture is about....
    In the above web site,, they have suggested certain sentences to begin with which I found very useful...

    (step 1) The article talks about . . .
    (step 2) which the passage describes as . . .
    (step 3) The lecture provides an example of . . . to illustrate this.
    (step 4) The professor explains that . . . He states that . . .

    By the way, I did not buy any material over the internet, I only watched free stuff..so do not try to buy things if you have short period of time before the test especially if your score is close to 26 then you only need to work on improvements.....

    Question number Five:
    I think this question is not bad compared to other questions..... it contains a conversation between two students discussing certain problem, when you take notes ..write what the problem is and then they usually have two solutions for it, write them down..... then they ask you to describe the problem, what the solutions are, and which one you would choose and why?

    Start like this:
    The woman's /man's problem is .......... (The two solutions that have been suggested are: first,................. second...........................) or you can say ( the man/woman suggests that she/he can ................ or ..................................)
    for me, I would choose the first/second solution because I think that.......................... and .....................( try to mention 2 reasons why you would pick one solution over the other)


    Question Six:
    It has a lecture to listen to that talks about main topic and subtopics with examples.....
    I learned a lot from this video...
    YouTube - TOEFL Speaking Improve your Score on Question 6

    then apply what you learned by practicing with more videos such as YouTube - TOEFL Speaking question 6 part 1 (4 samples)

    Hope that was useful for you guys....and good luck to you all......

    By the way, I have a problem regarding replying to private messages ..I can not reply to any so if any one had ever faced similar problem, please help me with this,,,,
    So for thoose who e-mailed me....

    Regarding the reading section: last question... well, for me I never read the whole passage, I want to use my time to start answering the questions and by doing so, I read the passage at the same time, so once the passage pops infront of me, I scroll down until the end to let me go to the first question..so when it comes to the last question (I do not really like this one) but I read each one and try to see if it is familiar to what I have read or not,, some time, you feel that you did not hear about this information, some time, it is a very minor one or is the opposite ,,some time, I have to go with my best guess... now I see that it is not only summary, some time they let you match things with two groups they mentined and I find this one easier than the summary....
    Hope that was useful.....
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    Thank you for your time and suggestions!

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    you're welcome Dacral... and good luck ...
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    Hi Rainy-cloud,

    Congratulations for your success!
    Thank you for sharing your experience, your posts are definitely very useful.

    Thanks again and all the best...

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    Hi again

    whats the best way of getting notes through the speaking section!

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