2024 Sweat Thread

[international]

No fund = no admission? 

PSU has sent me a NO FUND OFFER that they don't provide any financial aid at this point. The DGS told me that they have been giving scholarships from the second year for all the cases of graduate students who have received a NO FUND OFFER if they pass the qualifiers.(years 2 ~ 5) I have some external scholarships, so I can more or less cover my tuition and living expenses for the first and second year.

Given that PSU is such a great school I could go to that matches my research interests, would it be okay to accept this offer? Or does it make more sense to choose a school with a full-funding offer that doesn't match my research fit.

Edited April 12, 2024 by international

[int_applicant_infinity]

33 minutes ago, international said:

No fund = no admission? 

PSU has sent me a NO FUND OFFER that they don't provide any financial aid at this point. The DGS told me that they have been giving scholarships from the second year for all the cases of graduate students who have received a NO FUND OFFER if they pass the qualifiers.(years 2 ~ 5) I have some external scholarships, so I can more or less cover my tuition and living expenses for the first and second year.

Given that PSU is such a great school I could go to that matches my research interests, would it be okay to accept this offer? Or does it make more sense to choose a school with a full-funding offer that doesn't match my research fit.

If 1. You can reasonably comfortably fund your first year with scholarships 2. They can guarantee you funding from the second year onward 3. You're reasonably confident you will pass qualifying exams, and 4. This is your top choice, then I'd say go for it! Make sure you get #2 in writing though.

Edited April 12, 2024 by int_applicant_infinity

[int_applicant_infinity]

38 minutes ago, econk said:

What do people do if they get another offer after the 15th?

If it's better, take it! Not your fault you didn't know your choice set until after the deadline. 

[tywp]

1 hour ago, international said:

No fund = no admission? 

PSU has sent me a NO FUND OFFER that they don't provide any financial aid at this point. The DGS told me that they have been giving scholarships from the second year for all the cases of graduate students who have received a NO FUND OFFER if they pass the qualifiers.(years 2 ~ 5) I have some external scholarships, so I can more or less cover my tuition and living expenses for the first and second year.

Given that PSU is such a great school I could go to that matches my research interests, would it be okay to accept this offer? Or does it make more sense to choose a school with a full-funding offer that doesn't match my research fit.

May I ask if you received the email with a template offer from the DGS saying that they will move the waitlist on April 15?

[slutsky_equation]

Fingers crossed that some waitlists move over the weekend!

[john dodo]

2 hours ago, startz said:

Worse than that. There's often a small amount of action after the 15th!

That is true. Although I hope that does not happen..

[startz]

Traditionally (for American graduate schools), one had to ask for a release from the first school...which as a practical matter was always granted. That is no longer true. The details are at https://cgsnet.org/resources/for-current-prospective-graduate-students/april-15-resolution.

Note that while changing your mind before April 15th is completely okay, in some circumstances the losing school may be annoyed after April 15th. At the very least, it shouldn't be done lightly.

[international]

1 hour ago, int_applicant_infinity said:

If 1. You can reasonably comfortably fund your first year with scholarships 2. They can guarantee you funding from the second year onward 3. You're reasonably confident you will pass qualifying exams, and 4. This is your top choice, then I'd say go for it! Make sure you get #2 in writing though.

Thank you for your opinion. DGS didn't tell me in formal writing that they would provide funding from year 2 onwards and said they couldn't guarantee it in advance, but I'm going to ask for a formal written letter again.(I think it would be hard to change their stance.) If they just sent an informal email saying that they have offered funding in the past to all students who came in with a NO FUNDED offer if they pass a qualifier and will continue to do so, is it good to go or too risky?

1 hour ago, tywp said:

May I ask if you received the email with a template offer from the DGS saying that they will move the waitlist on April 15?

I received an email with a template offer. They said funding opportunities will be released on Monday morning.

Edited April 13, 2024 by international

[int_applicant_infinity]

4 minutes ago, international said:

Thank you for your opinion. DGS didn't tell me in formal writing that they would provide funding from year 2 onwards and said they couldn't guarantee it in advance, but I'm going to ask for a formal written letter again.(I think it would be hard to change their stance.) If they just sent an informal email saying that they have offered funding in the past to all students who came in with a NO FUNDED offer if they pass a qualifier and will continue to do so, is it good to go or too risky?

I received an email with a template offer. They said funding opportunities will be released on Monday morning.

I recommend talking to the DGS over the phone if you can to get a sense of how guaranteed the funding is.

[sicko]

29 minutes ago, startz said:

Traditionally (for American graduate schools), one had to ask for a release from the first school...which as a practical matter was always granted. That is no longer true. The details are at https://cgsnet.org/resources/for-current-prospective-graduate-students/april-15-resolution.

Note that while changing your mind before April 15th is completely okay, in some circumstances the losing school may be annoyed after April 15th. At the very least, it shouldn't be done lightly.

That’s really interesting— it seems absurd to not release students, especially since (theoretically) program-student matches should be stable (in the Gale-Shapley sense). Post-April-15 issues seem like another good argument for just running a match, rather than an admissions process.

[waitlistee]

Apparently, LSE sent out three versions of WL emails on Thursday. Could anyone taken off the WL from LSE yesterday/today share the language of the mail sent to them?

Thanks In Advance *_*

[econk]

UC Davis seems likely to send out more admits.

[grandee]

Does anyone have information on UC Santa Barbara waitlists?

[WordLife]

4 minutes ago, grandee said:

Does anyone have information on UC Santa Barbara waitlists?

I declined my offer yesterday, so good luck!

[guozili]

Any insights about Minnesota's waitlist? It is so quiet ...

[WordLife]

5 minutes ago, guozili said:

Any insights about Minnesota's waitlist? It is so quiet ...

I know someone who got in off the waitlist

[guozili]

2 minutes ago, WordLife said:

I know someone who got in off the waitlist

Thanks. May I ask when did he/she get in?

[international]

1 hour ago, econk said:

UC Davis seems likely to send out more admits.

How did you know that. Do you know when it is likely to be?

Edited April 13, 2024 by international

[asdfghjkl]

Is there any news about UChicago and/or UChicago Booth waiting list?

[tywp]

Is there anyone got accepted from the waitlist at UNC?

[StressedAndAnxious]

On 4/10/2024 at 5:46 PM, StressedAndAnxious said:

Any idea about UCL and whether their waitlist typically clears? Also, can anyone confirm what has been the typical size of their incoming cohort (is it still 40ish like someone on this thread earlier suggested) and what their funding package is like?

And finally, how does UCL compare to other UK unis (except LSE)

 

Please share if you've got any info about UCL waitlist, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you!

[econk]

1 hour ago, international said:

How did you know that. Do you know when it is likely to be?

They asked offer holders for an update about their decisions yesterday afternoon (in theory so that they could get a better sense of how many more waitlist offers they can send)

 

edited to add: I would assume they would be sending them on Monday since that’s the last day, and I’m not sure that they send any on weekends. I have no direct information on timing, though.

Edited April 13, 2024 by econk

[lsg]

The deadline for accepting is on April 15th. Does anyone know whether there is an exact time of the day that one must accept the offer? Is by midnight if not specified?

[waitlistee]

To those who recd offers from UBC, who is chairing the Adcomm this year?

[applicant_1]

Any information on Warwick, did anyone got off the waiting list or rejected the offer?