donkey_man_88 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Not to be a downer, but I'd definitely say that the Gmat Prep tests are better at indicating your true performance. My lowest score was a 680 on Kaplan. I scored over 700 multiple times, and scored a 710 on the UTP. Ended up with a 600 on the real exam. Overall, the Kaplan exams are much easier than the real exam. The real verbal is way tougher. The SC questions in Kaplan are so simple that it's not even funny. The Gmat Prep SC questions are tougher. This is just my biased opinion. Honestly, go in thinking confidently, but don't think about a specific score. Just pace yourself well. Remember, guessing on the real thing is not a bad thing to do. The hard bin questions are just too time consuming to get every question right. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdgirish Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Hi st, First Wish you a very Happy New Year '2009. As you said I tried the first CAT today. Managed 720 (Q51,V39) but barely managed to complete the sections. Also I must admit this was my worst show so far in Verbal, not oo sure what happened. I realised later that in the first 29 questions I had 3 wrong and in the last 30-41 i had 7 wrong so maybe time management did me in. I was wondering st on one thing so I thot I'd ask, I read on some forum that Princeton may not be a good indicator of the real GMAT exam, what do you think since you have been thru both. Also any strategy you could suggest to improve my timing, I'd really appreciate. Many Thanks again. -Regards, Girish Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkGirl28 Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Thanks st, Tatum and all! - gmat prep is def way more realistic, even though I got way too nervous in the quant section. Scores below: Actual GMAT: 730 GMAT prep 2: 710 Kaplan cat 4: 780 Kaplan cat 3: 670 Kaplan cat 2: 680 Kaplan cat 1: 690 GMAT prep 1: 730 Kaplan diagnostic: 690 Kaplan free diag (2 weeks earlier): 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st191200 Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 congrats NYG... 730 is awesome!! i got my AWA score today - 5.0 girish - if i give gmatprep a 5 on 5 as regards comparison to real GMAT then princeton will be 4 on 5.... so that's the closeness i felt... regardless, it is a good excercise course :) good luck folks! -st Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdgirish Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Thanks St. And 5.0 is good I believe. Any particular practice you can recommend for the AWA part. Congrats NYG. Regards, Girish Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st191200 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 well, as for AWA my total practice time was 1 day (day before real GMAT) I went through OG11 AWA section. Couple of things 1. Stick to the Structure 2. Make sure the subject, verb , tense , parallelism and other things that you learned in sentence correction section are implemented properly while you write your analysis. 3. Do not make spelling mistakes 4. Keep 3-4 minutes spare for review (i failed to do so for the analysis of issue part in real GMAT - could not review my last para) 5. Trying to use intricate vocab might be futile, if you think its important. Its the structure and flow of idea that is important. Its like a movie screenplay - should make sense and should be coherent. Cannot spill the beans in middle of your analysis i.e. for instance keep conclusions for the end part :) I thinks that's about it... you should be ok if you have done an avg amount of reading and have done a lot of professional emails :) good luck -ST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikchicago Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 My name is I.K i will be taking the gmat in april this year but i need advice on these books because i am aiming for scores within the 700 range. I have OG11 and OG10, Kaplan 800, princeton review 2006. Reading the blogs of some of the people who have scores in the 700's. They used these books and Kaplan verbal and math, Princeton verbal and math and Kaplan Gre and Gmat with the books i already have. Please I would really appreciate it if anyhone can tell me if i should go ahead and add these other books to what i already have or stick with my OG11 & OG10, Kaplan 800 and Princeton review 2006. Thank you very much in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessetheguy Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hi Everyone, I imagine everyone here wonders how close the actual GMAT marks are to the GMATPrep software. I copied the gmat scores and GMATprep scores reported on this forum into my favorite spreadsheet (numbers not excel!) and came up with some fairly interesting results... The data is the last 84 reported scores from here on the Test Magic forums (dating back to around page 10 and 2005ish). Where multiple attempts with the GMATPrep software were reported by the same individual I only counted the first attempt. The scores for the GMAT prep exams listed here are the averages of GMAT Prep 1 and GMAT Prep 2 for each individual. The Results: average reported actual GMAT score was 692 and the average reported score on the GMATPrep exams was 694. This shows a clear relationship at first glance. However, please remember that a score of 692 is not representative of the whole GMAT test taking population (I think the mean score is somewhere in the low 500s?). Additionally, many test takers attempt the Prep software early in their preparations to gauge their current situation. This can skew the results downward. Keep in mind these are self reported scores. Perhaps the most important piece of information is that of the 84 reported scores only 46 (55%) reported an actual score that was +- 30 points of their GMATprep scores. Of the remaining 38 test takers outside the 30 point range, 21 (55%) reported an actual score that was more than 30 points less than their Prep results. (Sentence correction anyone?) One other little tidbit is that fully 58% of test takers showed an improvement on their actual scores versus their Prep scores. To me this is an indication of people using the tool as it is intended. As a diagnostic indicator. Alright I hope my wasted sunday night helped someone!! The Report Card: Actual avg. 692 Prep avg. 694 Showing increase over Prep: 58% Within +- 30 points: 55% Outside of 30 point range showing a 'Large' negative: 55% If anyone wants to get a hold of the raw data and do anything else with it just PM me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbull Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hi Everyone, I imagine everyone here wonders how close the actual GMAT marks are to the GMATPrep software. I copied the gmat scores and GMATprep scores reported on this forum into my favorite spreadsheet (numbers not excel!) and came up with some fairly interesting results... The data is the last 84 reported scores from here on the Test Magic forums (dating back to around page 10 and 2005ish). Where multiple attempts with the GMATPrep software were reported by the same individual I only counted the first attempt. The Results: average reported actual GMAT score was 692 and the average reported score on the GMATPrep exams was 694. This shows a clear relationship at first glance. However, please remember that a score of 692 is not representative of the whole GMAT test taking population (I think the mean score is somewhere in the low 500s?). Additionally, many test takers attempt the Prep software early in their preparations to gauge their current situation. This can skew the results downward. Also keep in mind these are self reported scores. Perhaps the most important piece of information is that of the 84 reported scores only 46 (55%) reported an actual score that was +- 30 points of their GMATprep scores. Of the remaining 38 test takers outside the 30 point range, 21 (55%) reported an actual score that was more than 30 points less than their Prep results. (Sentence correction anyone?) One other little tidbit is that fully 58% of test takers showed an improvement on their actual scores versus their Prep scores. To me this is an indication of people using the tool as it is intended. As a diagnostic indicator. Alright I hope my wasted sunday night helped someone!! The Report Card: Actual avg. 692 Prep avg. 694 Showing increase over Prep: 58% Within +- 30 points: 55% Outside of 30 point range showing a 'Large' negative: 55% If anyone wants to get a hold of the raw data and do anything else with it just PM me! :grad:[clap]:tup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmater-1 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Hi Everyone, I imagine everyone here wonders how close the actual GMAT marks are to the GMATPrep software. I copied the gmat scores and GMATprep scores reported on this forum into my favorite spreadsheet (numbers not excel!) and came up with some fairly interesting results... The data is the last 84 reported scores from here on the Test Magic forums (dating back to around page 10 and 2005ish). Where multiple attempts with the GMATPrep software were reported by the same individual I only counted the first attempt. The Results: average reported actual GMAT score was 692 and the average reported score on the GMATPrep exams was 694. This shows a clear relationship at first glance. However, please remember that a score of 692 is not representative of the whole GMAT test taking population (I think the mean score is somewhere in the low 500s?). Additionally, many test takers attempt the Prep software early in their preparations to gauge their current situation. This can skew the results downward. Also keep in mind these are self reported scores. Perhaps the most important piece of information is that of the 84 reported scores only 46 (55%) reported an actual score that was +- 30 points of their GMATprep scores. Of the remaining 38 test takers outside the 30 point range, 21 (55%) reported an actual score that was more than 30 points less than their Prep results. (Sentence correction anyone?) One other little tidbit is that fully 58% of test takers showed an improvement on their actual scores versus their Prep scores. To me this is an indication of people using the tool as it is intended. As a diagnostic indicator. Alright I hope my wasted sunday night helped someone!! The Report Card: Actual avg. 692 Prep avg. 694 Showing increase over Prep: 58% Within +- 30 points: 55% Outside of 30 point range showing a 'Large' negative: 55% If anyone wants to get a hold of the raw data and do anything else with it just PM me! [clap][clap][clap] Great Job, Really appreciated :tup::tup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomintampa Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Can you calculate the correlation between GMAT PREP and post the linear formula? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessetheguy Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 Can you calculate the correlation between GMAT PREP and post the linear formula? Thank you. I think I have already wasted enough time on this :) Send me your email address in a PM, I will send you the raw data and you can do whatever you want with it!! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomintampa Posted January 27, 2009 Share Posted January 27, 2009 dude, if it's already in a spreadsheet you dont have to do any more work...;) My email is tslawsky@ufl.edu. thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shereen GMAT-Scared Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Dear Erin, GPREP #1 (before GMAT prep) 480 Manhattan GMAT # 1 590 Kaplan Diagnostic 550 CAT#1 640 CAT#2 590 CAT#3 650 GPREP # 2 530 (four days before the real test) Real test 540 (41 math 70%, 22 verbal 48%) I was really disappointed how can I get a 650+? please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbull Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 GMAT PREP: 690 740 760 750 710 680 G- day: 690( verbal: 34 maths : 49) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdgirish Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 GMAT PREP: 690 740 760 750 710 680 G- day: 690( verbal: 34 maths : 49) Any recommendations you could give for the last 15 days of preparations. I took GMATPrep long back(missed about 6 ques) - got 710 and then took it again after 2-3 weeks - got 760. I have not tried GMATPrep2 so far. Someone mentioned I keep it till the last week. I have tried Manhattan CAT1-4 though so two more are left there. Kindly advise based on your experience. Will be grateful. Thanks a lot. -Regards, Girish Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbull Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Any recommendations you could give for the last 15 days of preparations. I took GMATPrep long back(missed about 6 ques) - got 710 and then took it again after 2-3 weeks - got 760. I have not tried GMATPrep2 so far. Someone mentioned I keep it till the last week. I have tried Manhattan CAT1-4 though so two more are left there. Kindly advise based on your experience. Will be grateful. Thanks a lot. -Regards, Girish Malik I am stunned Mr. girish . You missed six and managed 710 . That shows you were hitting 800. I missed one in quant and one in verbal on the G- day. I guess I paid a huge price as I can guarantee( yes I mean it) that GMAT will charge you high on that ground . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star_321 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I am stunned Mr. girish . You missed six and managed 710 . That shows you were hitting 800. I missed one in quant and one in verbal on the G- day. I guess I paid a huge price as I can guarantee( yes I mean it) that GMAT will charge you high on that ground . Frankly Speaking was surprised to see your score bear&bull. Was expecting something great from you. But I guess you missed those two questions and that have really cost you a lot. Still 690 is not at all a bad score. But would like to know how did you prepared and what are your future plans. If you feel you can score more than 730 (which i feel you can) I guess you should take a second attempt. It's not at all late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearbull Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Frankly Speaking was surprised to see your score bear&bull. Was expecting something great from you. But I guess you missed those two questions and that have really cost you a lot. Still 690 is not at all a bad score. But would like to know how did you prepared and what are your future plans. If you feel you can score more than 730 (which i feel you can) I guess you should take a second attempt. It's not at all late. This was my second attempt. My previous score is in fact 730 . He he Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
star_321 Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 This was my second attempt. My previous score is in fact 730 . He he Good to know that... So there is no reason for you to feel bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmdgirish Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 I am stunned Mr. girish . You missed six and managed 710 . That shows you were hitting 800. I missed one in quant and one in verbal on the G- day. I guess I paid a huge price as I can guarantee( yes I mean it) that GMAT will charge you high on that ground . Not sure what happened, but thats what it was, I was not able to note the scaled score though. Kindly let me know how to prepare in the last 15 days. i will be grateful. I am doing sets 21-30 right now. Let me know what you think. My weakest areas as per me are CR and RC. Any inputs on the study pattern / exams to take would be great. Thanks. Many Thanks. -Regards, Girish Malik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartera Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Failed GMAT PREP: 640 670 740 G- day: 620( verbal: 28 maths : 47) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12rk34 Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I find this discussion really interesting. I would like to add that it also depends on how well you are able to hold on to your nerves on the G'day. So even if you performance has been very good on gmat prep, the same might not be reflected on real GMAT score. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cartera Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I find this discussion really interesting. I would like to add that it also depends on how well you are able to hold on to your nerves on the G'day. So even if you performance has been very good on gmat prep, the same might not be reflected on real GMAT score. :) You are in reason. I was expecting something around 660 - 670 and 620 is much lower than expected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finsisher Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Hi Cartera, I have seen many of your posts in TestMagic and I am sure, you deserve above 700 , I suggest take tones of test make yourself indifferent to the testing condition, probably u got 2 much nervous or something didn't work out. dont give up i am with U on the same boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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