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    Profile evaulation

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    Hello everybody,

    I want to continue my education at
    the field of economics. However, I
    cannot afford the program tuition,
    fee, and living cost in USA.

    Hence, I ask you all to direct me in
    teaching or research assistantship
    and fellowship opportunities that
    provide full tuition waiver and
    monthly stipend for living expenses.
    (Especially, deadline of financial
    aid for international students. Am I
    late for Fall 2008 ?)

    I will be very thankful to the ones
    who can assess my profile and say
    something about my chance of getting
    in MA or MS in economics in USA or
    Canada (including tuition waiver and
    monthly stipend for living
    expenses).

    I have a BA degree in Tourism
    Management from Bogazici University.
    However, the management side of the
    department is given the primary
    importance. Therefore, I have sound
    background in quantitative courses
    and fundamental economics. You can
    see the course contents from the
    link.

    http://www.tourism.boun.edu.tr/cours
    econtents.html

    Below, I have summarized my
    highlights.

    GRE General Test: 1420
    (Verbal:630 and Quantitative:790 out
    of 800)
    TOEFL: 101 out of 120
    High School GPA: 4.91 out of
    5.00 (“The Best Student” in my
    graduation year).
    University GPA: 3.54 out of
    4.00 (High Honors degree as “The
    Second Best Student” in my
    graduation year).
    Assisting the faculty members
    in university with their research
    projects from the stage of field
    study to the one of data analysis.
    Department laboratory
    assistant official for 1 year.
    Work experience in many
    corporations and foundations such as
    AIG Life Insurance and Turkish
    Republican Land Forces Command.
    High grades (AA or BA) from
    quantitative courses based on
    economics, business administration,
    and mathematics.
    Hobbies ranging from charcoal
    to Greek mythology.


    Thanks in advance,

    (name deleted)
    (e-mail deleted by asquare)
    Last edited by asquare; 12-10-2010 at 03:48 AM. Reason: do not post contact information

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    Did you realize that this is the third time within 1 hour or so that you post one and the same thing?
    All right maybe you want to have it somehow more organized and more "on topic". So here are my 2 cents:


    First of all I don't think that you have to give your real name in this forum and especially not your mail-adress unless you have the best ***ing spam-filter available

    All right: You are right it's too late to apply for this fall... deadlines are typically around december 15th to january 15th and most of the universities even stopped accepting "late" applications. So you'll have to apply for the next cycle... sorry. Further: 90% of the students applying for PhD's in the states don't have enough money to cover their living expenses let alone tution.. so we are all in the same boat. When you apply you will be automatically considered for funding (unless you state explicitely: PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME MONEY!!! ) whose provision is said to be based on merit not on need.

    Comments on your profile:

    1)your university seems to be pretty tough in terms of grading given that you are 2nd best with a GPA of 3.54. But this is not sooooo important for int. students although it's also not very helpful either I'm afraid...

    2) It would be interesting to see which math courses you took/had precisely. Because Tourism management itself doesn't sound like THE best program to prepare for an econ PhD and I suppose there are 1-2 profs sharing my opinion. You could use the time until the next application cycle starts to take additional math courses: E.g: Have a look at the curriculum for studying math in your country and take the courses recommended for the first semester, or if you feel better prepared take the courses recommended for the 2nd, 3rd or 4th semester...

    3) YOur GRE is fine and your RA/work experience is also great and is probably the basis for you to get good letter of recommendation's

    4) Have a look where other students from your university did their PhD studies in the states and contact them. If they perform well the adcoms are more likely to say: "Ah again one of the brilliant guys from University "X" ... we should take him"

    5) If pedigree is somehow available: mobilize it

    6) Aim high, don't underestimate but also don't overestimate yourself: i.e.: talk to your profs and ask them what they think

    All the best
    "The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct, which with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work." John von Neumann


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    (To be clear, the OP didn't start this thread. I moved one copy of his post to its own thread after deleting it from many other threads, where it didn't belong.)

    Thanks to Vahalla for the comments; I'm sure the OP will appreciate them and having them on their own thread will hopefully make them easier to find and render the duplicate posting unnecessary...

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    Oh I see. Thanks a^2. then maybe I should delete my answer from the other thread as well?
    "The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct, which with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work." John von Neumann


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    Up to you If you do want it gone, I can do it for you if you want, or you can edit it so it's just a "."

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    "The sciences do not try to explain, they hardly even try to interpret, they mainly make models. By a model is meant a mathematical construct, which with the addition of certain verbal interpretations, describes observed phenomena. The justification of such a mathematical construct is solely and precisely that it is expected to work." John von Neumann


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    hello ibrahim,

    i assume you don't want to pursue a phd in economics. but if you want to get a MA or MSc degree in economics in canada or the us, it is not very likely for you to be accepted to a good program given your major, even though you have a good academic standing. i think several ma programmes in the usa may accept you, but i am not sure if you want to go to a mediocre program. however, if you can share more information about the courses you have taken, I can say more. if you took the necessary economics and mathematics courses and have good LORs, then apply to several programmes and wait for the results if the deadlines have not passed yet.

    however, what i can recommend you (if you are not accepted to good ma programmes) is to apply to ma in economics programmes in bogazici, koc and bilkent universities in turkey. these programmes do not have tuitions and provide monthly stipends. moreover, these programmes will provide you the necessary economic background and good LoRs to apply to any top level economics programmes (ma, msc or phd) given your performance. i think the deadlines have not passed yet. and good luck

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    Dear Nebuchadrezzar,

    First, I would like to thank to you for yout sincere and detailed response and courtesy.

    I, in fact, want to pursue a PhD directly or after completing my masters. However, the first option may be difficult for me because I have, and want to advance, my economics knowledge which is upper fundamental. If I am not accepted by any school, I will apply to Turkish schools in order to form more robust economics background. Thanks for the advice.

    I have a strong background in math. Please imagine a guy who has never taken a grade below 85 out of 100 during all his high school and university life in math courses. Therefore, I can maybe have deficiency in economics. In addition, my marketing and finance professors have provided good LORs.

    Please give some comments on my economics and math background. I have taken the following courses:

    1. ECONOMICS I:
    Demand and supply, elasticity, price controls, marginal utility and indifference curve analysis, production and costs, market structures, determination of wages, return on capital.

    2. ECONOMICS II:
    Nature of income and national income determination, employment, money and banking, fiscal and monetary policy, international trade theory and balance of payments, economic development, economic system, the general structure of Turkish economy.

    3. TOURISM ECONOMICS:
    The role of economics in tourism development. Macroeconomic and microeconomic theory and applications from problems of community resource allocation, with particular attention to the problems of multiple use of community resources and to the conflicts between private and public goals.

    4. INTRODUCTION TO PROBABILITY AND STATISTICS:
    Basic concepts of probability. The role of statistics in scientific inquiry. Descriptive study of the data. Intuitive reasoning behind the basic principles and techniques of statistical analysis. Discrete and continuous distributions. Introduction to the hypothesis testing.

    5. QUANTITATIVE TECHNIQUES:
    Introduction to techniques of summarizing and interpreting business field data with up to date statistical software. Extensive hands on training. Population and sample; descriptive statistics; probability theory and distributions; sampling; hypothesis testing; t-test; analysis of variance; chi-square; non-parametric statistics; correlation and regression analysis.

    6. RESEARCH METHODOLOGY:
    Research design; hypothesis development; sampling; data collection methods; design of survey instrument; hypothesis testing: univariate and multivariate data analysis methods; experimental design; qualitative research methods and research report preparation. Research project to apply SPSS applications.

    7. BUSINESS MATHEMATICS:
    Basics of algebra, linear equations, inequalities, functions and graphs, systems of equations, exponential and logarithmic functions, limits and continuity, the derivative, applications of the derivative with specific examples from the service industries.

    8. FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING:
    Introduction to accounting information system. Identifying, recording, summarizing of economic transactions. Theoretical framework of accounting, generally accepted accounting principles and assumptions. Complete accounting cycle and book keeping aspects; accrual accounting, end-of-period assumptions and preparation of financial statements.

    9. MANAGERIAL ACCOUNTING FOR TOURISM INDUSTRY:
    Financial statements of different types of establishments in tourism industry; uniform system of accounts for hospitality industry and unique characteristics of hotel financial statements. Preparation of accounting information for managerial decision making purposes. Introduction to models and techniques for managerial decision making using accountig information; ratio analysis; funds flow statement cost-volume-profit approach; budgeting; investment analysis.

    10. INTRODUCTION TO FINANCE:
    Techniques for determining the worth of financial assets, the trade between risk and return, financial institutions, financial analysis, financial forecasting and the optimal financial strategy.

    11. INVESTMENT MANAGEMENT:
    Introduction to basic capital budgeting and investment appraisal techniques. Basic components of a complete feasibility study: Business concept development, assessment of industry trends, preparation of marketing plan, preparation of management and organization plans, financial statement projections, cash flow statements, application of investment appraisal criteria, sensitivity analysis, preparation and presentation of feasibility report. Application of the investment appraisal model to tourism investment projects.


    Thanks a lot again. I am obliged to you.

    Ibrahim Kekec




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    Ibrahim,

    I believe you, to some extent, when you say you have a strong background in math, but High School is not considered when adcoms take a look at your math background. Given that one of the courses you posted was "Business Mathematics" (which from Cornell's website, is NOT considered a substitute for real mathematics courses, no matter how rigorous it may be,) I am intrigued as to what other mathematics courses you have taken in University. Could you list them?

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    If you have not taken other mathematics courses, your background is not considered strong by the adcoms, but on the contrary very very weak.

    At the bare minumum, you should have the basic Calculus courses and Linear Algebra. A strong applicant has taken a year of mathematical statistics (calculus-based) and a course in real analysis. Some people have much more.

    You need to have some experience writing mathematical proofs if you want to get a PhD in economics.
    "Since it befalls, that in most instances
    Current opinion leans to false: and then
    Affection bends the judgment to her ply."

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