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All, Please read this study from ETS. This is the fact. Investigating the Criterion-Related Validity of the TOEFL® Speaking Scores for ITA Screening and Setting Standards for ITAs Four universities have their “Gold stand tests” for TAs. Many "TRUE" TAs who passed the university’s test failed TOEFL ibt. Table 8&9 (page 18) is very interesting. At university of California in LA, 7 of 9 (77%) eligible (true) TAs failed the 27 cutoff IBT exam. Table 16 (page 24) summarizes the study from University of North Carolina (Charlotte). Total 8 of 17 (47%) TAs failed the 21 cut off ibt Table 22 (page 32) and last paragraph on page 31 summarize the study from University of Drexel. The statistics suggested that 23 of 100 ‘all assignments TA’ (AA) failed the 23 cut off ibt. Table 29 is a summary from University of Florida (Greenville). At the 26.5 cutoff, 67% of TAs failed ibt. NABP set up “26” based on “ibt 26” equal to “ TSE 50”.

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paka3012, I used the first 2 books that you mentioned and also got the pharmacist manual.pdf for CA from DEA website. I also recommend try to study adultery and mislabel issues. Some situations are very closed to differentiate. Good luck.

Nataly, It is a three months old post.

Dear All, Public safety is the major reason for setting up 26 in speaking section or 50 for TSE. Many questions come to my mind regarding this unrealistic cut off score. First, I wonder how many registered pharmacists in Michigan or Florida who do not retain FPGEE certificate. Second, if those pharmacists safely or harmfully provide a pharmacy service to their communities. Final, if those pharmacists willing to come forward to echo this unrealistic cut off score. I believe these pharmacists would represent the best voices of the NABP petition to reconsider the speaking cut off score. ETS protects itself regarding the cut off score. It states that the test center environment and test takers’ fatigue are the factors that the receiving score may not represent the true ability of test taker. It is the NABP’s negligence. NABP fails to carefully consider the reasonable cut off. This negligence results in the exclusion of many qualified pharmacists to obtain the FPGEE certificate and pharmacist license in many states. It is NABP's burden to prove or explain that how and why the registered pharmacists who do not get 26 safely provide the pharmacy service. These MI/Fl RPhs represent the best indicator of the NABP's negligence regarding the 26 cut off score. RR

I wish that the organization would provide several benefits for the members. During FPGEE preparation Assign the volunteer to help member who had difficulty experience to study FPGEE (In my country, new students will be matched with the assigned seniors. The seniors provide a guide and share experiences including campus life and academic issues.) During FPGEE test Organize or set up transportation and lodging for the member in order to minimize the expenses (If there are many members taking the test, the organization could make negotiation with the hotels, arranging to share the room, or arranging the transportation to the test center) During TOEFL ibt test Assign the volunteer to be the tutor or help for the registration or test Arrange the practicing partners Voice any concerns to ETS or NABP Applying for Internship or Visa Assign the volunteer to share experience or help for these processes. Arriving and Doing intern Volunteer will help the new comers to get start the new life style in the US. Taking NAPLEX & MJPE Volunteers share experiences of taking NAPLEX and MJPE. Registered Pharmacists Share any resources or build the net work for job application (the good one) Share any good or concerned experiences that would be benefit for each other for practicing pharmacist I believe someone else also has other ideas what member should benefits form this organization. Helping each other will not only benefit to the pharmacist member but also the patients. Member can learn the good experiences from other in order to be the good pharmacists. Finally, the patients will benefit from all of these activities. When I am writing this message, I cannot stop thinking of many elderly patients who I meet every day. I wish this organization will help the qualified international pharmacists to become the good pharmacists. The good international pharmacists will fill many vacancy jobs and provide the good quality service to the patients. http://www.www.urch.com/forums/pharmacy-forum/72541-lets-form-legal-organization-foreign-pharmacy-graduate.html

It is the interesting article wrote by Bill Templer. I just posted a part of the article. The whole article is in the below link. JCEPS: Journal for Critical Education Policy Studies 3. Assessing Assessment and its Ethics The ethical implications of assessment are being addressed by a growing number of scholars inside the EFL profession. Fulcher (1999) notes that it is "not surprising that the moral problems of the late 20th Century have finally caught up with applied linguists and language testers". Liz Hamp-Lyons, current president of the International Language Testing Association (ILTA), stresses that "an ethical approach to language testing requires us to make clear the limitations of our tests to everyone involved—not only test takers, but their parents, their teachers, school administrations, and political decision makers" (2002). Her work opens certain reformist windows onto testing ethics, though largely in terms of 'individual responsibility' of testers (Hamp-Lyons 1997a, 1999, 2000a, 2000b, 2000c; Alderson & Hamp-Lyons 1996). Bernard Spolsky (1995) has been one of the few to raise probing questions about the institutional and policy origins of language testing, centering on TOEFL. In the past half-decade, a more radical turn has emerged, as reflected in particular in the work of Elena Shohamy (2001a; 2001b) on 'critical language testing', which interrogates the very practice of language testing as a site of classification, social manipulation and control. Various papers at the July 2003 Language Testing Research Colloquium also touch on ethical dimensions (Shohamy et al. 2003; Green 2003; Haines & Ashworth 2003; Kunnan 2003; Wall & Horak 2003), and the ILTA has increasing become a forum for such concerns, as reflected in its Code of Ethics (ILTA 2000).[ [7] ] These are questions whose empirical investigation is overdue. The associated issues have sparked little advocacy. Standard TEFL handbooks such as Carter & Nunan (2001) do not touch on any of these social, economic or test-political aspects.[ [8] ] McNamara (2002) stresses that "industrialized language testing - is ripe for critical analysis. There are approximately one million individual administrations of the TOEFL test in any year, in a huge number of countries; what are we to make of this phenomenon in critical terms? [] much work remains to be done." Yet he suspects that "a radical social critique of language testing [] is perhaps unlikely to emerge from within the field". Part of that lack of radical consciousness inside TEFL regarding this prime disciplinary site may be due to the very fact of internationalisation: these are ‘exported’ exams, administered and paid for largely outside the BANA countries, much of their social impact is 'peripheral' to the metropolitan centres. FairTest in the U.S., which is a critical watchdog following high-stakes testing in the American schools, is well aware of the issue of the TOEFL, yet its journal Fairtest Examiner over the past 15 years has had only one article focusing on TOEFL. More concerned with SAT, GRE and related tests, it is only beginning to contemplate a strategy for addressing some of the TOEFL issues and possible alternatives.[ [9] ] Peter Sacks (2000) has also written incisive critique of the testing cult in the U.S. (Peter Sacks - Home), but has not addressed the EFL testing industry.

Alok77, Well, it is the major reason why we need the legal organization to voice any concerns for us. As an individual, we have no power to negotiate. I remember KNOK posted the poll for forming the international graduated pharmacist organization. There are only 21 members participate in that poll. KNOK tried his/her best to voice the ineffectiveness of ETS but he/she has no power to negotiate with ETS or NABP. Although members accept KNOK as the leader, he/she does not legally represent us. I guess that why NABP or ETS do not bother to response KNOK’s or others’ petitions. If we trust Knok and want Knok to voice any unfairness or ineffectiveness, we need to form the organization. http://www.www.urch.com/forums/pharmacy-forum/72541-lets-form-legal-organization-foreign-pharmacy-graduate.html

FYI: language discrimination: know your right Why does NABP set 26 speaking section for international pharmacists while average score of native-English speaker and American is less than 26? Is it a language discrimination? http://www.uwm.edu/Course/350-192/discrimination.html http://www.aclunc.org/library/publications/language_discrimination_-_know_your_rights.shtml?ht=language%20discrimination%20language%20discrimination

Hello, Does any one have an idea about this test center? I am just curious because it is one of three centers that left for next month test. I had very bad experience in one of South NJ test centers. This test center and CompUSA Mt Larel always are available. I just wonder if the comp-USA is bad as the one I took the test before. Thanks for any info. RR

Thanks a lot. It is so kind of you to response so quickly. These details would be helpful for all of us. Good luck for your intern. Rarin

Englishbug, I would recommend you read this web site. http://www.geocities.com/soho/Atrium/1437/tips.html This is the rule of thumb for writing essay. Every TOEFL prep that I've read recommends the same rule. You have to get this first step (format) work. If one skim your essay, one can jot down 2 or 3 points that you want one to know. Try to reorganize your essay again. I saw some contents in your essay but they were all over the essay. For example, the first sentence of the 4th paragraph should be your first sentence in the introduction. I have to admitted that I am still practicing my writing and working on grammar. However, I feel very comfortable when I have this format in my mind. My friend and I used this strategy and we got more than 25.

desisatguru, Did you try to petition your ibt score excluding the speaking test and submit your TSE? Based on this link http://www.ets.org/portal/site/ets/menuitem.1488512ecfd5b8849a77b13bc3921509/?vgnextoid=fdd8af5e44df4010VgnVCM10000022f95190RCRD&vgnextchannel=7929d898c84f4010VgnVCM10000022f95190RCRD In page 6 and 7, three format tests (Total ibt score excluding speaking section to PBT and CBT) were compared. . For example, 80 ibt is equivalent to 550 PBT . NABP may reject but you have nothing to lose. Put them in the position to explain their logic to accept or reject you TOEFL scores. Wish you luck.

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It is interesting ABC news and many valuable comments regarding the Pharmacist shortage. http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...chool_stu.html Hope NABP considers what is happening now in the US. More than 3000 foreign pharmacists participating in FPGEE in 2005 are willing to get in to the pharmacist job market. However, many of them who passed the FPGEE test cannot pass the 26 score in the speaking ibt and therefore could not get the internship training. Is this speaking test reliable to evaluate the capability to communicate in English? I guess that American pharmacy student use only USP. In my country with the 5 years pharmacy program, we used both BP and USP as the references. Why put the foreign pharmacist in the limbo of the speaking test that is not relevant to what Pharmacist has to do. I do not think that patients want pharmacist to summarize what patients should concern of their medication within 45 sec or 60 sec. I also do not think that passing the good score in summarizing the campus life will be the good indicator of good practicing in Pharmacy. Granting internship hours by preceptor is not automatic of showing up at the pharmacy department. Pharmacist interns need to perform their duty very well. If accent or communication is the concern. I believe the preceptor would recommend that in the internship affidavit. Of course, more hours will be required to fulfill the requirement. Pharmacist interns are still required to work under the registered pharmacist' supervision. If I could I would like to ask NABP and patient this following question. Would you prefer your prescription to be filled by the Pharmacy technician who have a high school diploma in US or the foreign pharmacist who graduated form 4 or 5 years in school of pharmacy. In addition, these Foreign pharmacist had dispensed many prescriptions in their country for a least one year. During entire pharmacy program, these foreign pharmacists had read most the text books in English. Finally, these Foreign pharmacist has gained almost full score (27-29 of 30) in three sections of TOEFL ibt but less than 26 of 30 in speaking section. Provide your explanation and sample to support your preference. you have 15 sec to prepare your answer and 45 sec to answer this question