darrent

Another post for ya from another site. Would not touch this school with a ten inch stick. As far as "polish goes", I think that is subjective. There were many students in my Schulich MBA class that I thought to myself "how the heck did this person get in the program" and it did make me cringe thinking this person had the same degree as me and would be going out to the world and potentially lessen the reputation of the school (in reference to international students 75%+ who can't even speak or write proper english) The vast majority of students could not create presentations or write essays. They were always looking to partner up with English speaking students like myself because they have lacked confidence. I think to myself - which recruiter in their right mind would hire from here??

http://rankings.ft.com/pdf/global-mba-rankings.pdf Again Schulich (York University) continues its tumble in the global MBA rankings scene. I am astounded at how low the Schulich MBA graduate salary really is!! The salary is dismal - forget for a tier 1, 2, 3, school but for even a tier 5 school. There are many reasons for this- based on what I've heard from peers and colleagues here in Bay Street, Toronto. First is a very high number of mediocre/poor international students (74%) that discourages local business students from attending the institution. Second is its pool of 'underclass' domestic applicants who haven't accomplished anything of significance in their working lives (often with no work experience at all) If you think about it, there's a process of self selection that goes on when candidates are looking at what MBA schools to attend. Based on their current situation, and position, they look for a school that will drastically improve their salary/job prospects (afterall they're investing a great deal of time, not to mention money). The higher the ending salary, the higher the quality of applicants - it's just that simple folks. If one is happy graduating and earning this 78K; the candidates that apply to Schulich certainly haven't accomplished much. Using myself as an example, I have an undergrad from Queen's and am earning just 15K short of their 'graduates' salary, 2 years out of school. Why on earth would I want to go there?

The drop in rankings? I would assume that it has a lot to do with the salary discrepancy. Just by looking at the salaries from the FT rankings, graduate salaries at Schulich are SIGNIFICANTLY less than other tier 1, 2, and even tier 3 schools. It may have a lot to do with what that poster was saying as well.. far too many international students/low quality domestic applicants :yuck: If you think about it, there's a process of self selection that goes on when candidates are looking at what MBA schools to attend. Based on their current situation, and position, they look for a school that will drastically improve their salary/job prospects (afterall they're investing a great deal of time, not to mention money). The higher the ending salary, the higher the quality of applicants - it's just that simple folks. If one is happy graduating and earning this 80K; the candidates that apply to Schulich certainly haven't accomplished much. Using myself as an example, I have an undergrad from Queen's and am earning just 15K short of their 'graduates' salary, 2 years out of school. Why on earth would I want to go there?

This forum is with regard to Schulich School of Business, York University, Canada. First, some background. I worked at multinational corporation for 4 years, and graduated from IIT 5 years ago. I question whether to apply to U.S schools vs Canadian and I heard positive things about Schulich. Even though, I was accepted by 3 US schools and 2 Cdns, I accepted Schulich. Worst decision of my life!!! Schulich is immigrant school that recruits only foreign students/immigrants for high tuition fee!! Almost all students in class (Pakistan, Phillippines, Chinese, India) cannot speak proper English!! Because of the reputation, few local Canadians (Whites, other) choose to attend the school. And as result, few recruiters decide to recruit from there because of this fierce reputation! Far better is Rotman (Toronto) and Ivey (Western) for Canada who gains top recruiters - financial consulting, investment banking etc. But still there is still problem of rampant discrimination in Canada. Call the land of opportunity by some, opportunities are far from similar for white Canadian vs. immigrant. Same white doing same job, with exact same education, and exact same credentials is paid $30000 more each year. Please refer to www.notcanada.com. In the U.S it does not work like this! In my case, I graduate from the school with honours specialization Finance, and am offered only jobs range from $50000-$55000/yr. And no US companies will even consider me! Average salary is $95000 at Rotman and Ivey (all whites, few foreign students I know earns $65000), and salary is $160000+ at top 30 US schools. What make me very sad is I spent $85000 Cdn for Tuition and Board and have big debt load. http://www.scoretop.com/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif GUYS! With good exchange rate (1 Can = 1.08 US) why CONSIDERR to go to Cdn school? Wake up and smell it! USA USA USA!! There really is no better time than NOOW! If I can wake up and do all again, I would go to USA!! Wayyy more opportunity - recruiters and large companies, less discrimination in workplace, FAR higher salary, and less taxes! Here is LATEST financial times 2007 figures. York has slipped from 18th to 49th, biggest drop of any school on the list http://www.scoretop.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif . Best of luck! Subin Khatri. http://rankings.ft.com/pdf/global-mba-rankings.pdf