quickdraw77

gmat20034, I really don't remember specifics of the questions you asked for. As I mentioned in my post, I was very tight on time in the math exam around the 15-25 question mark ( ended up with eight minutes left in the end.though..as the questions kind of slacked off in difficulty level..) and am quite blank as to the details of the questions...

class of 99 iitb, gtech 2001

Manhattan scoring is not indicative of your final score. I don't think there is a single test prep package out there who can give you a good indication of your score apart from powerprep. I suggest you try to minimize the number of mistakes made , irrespective of difficulty level of the exam. That is the best way to judge if you are improving.

I didn't try Arco at all, so can't comment. Princeton does not have explanations (at least., I couldn't find them), so I just did the math sections where you know for sure if you are wrong. I would say that if you need a lot of practice, get both Kaplan and Manhattan. However, I think Manhattan is closer to the real thing than Kaplan is. Before test day, I would take the section that you feel you are weaker at from the Paper tests. It depends from person to person, but for me, it was a pyschological thing to be in touch with either the math or verbal section every day for the last three-four days.

Give equal importance to all the questions. I am afraid that the only way I feel that people can better their performance at RC is to read often. (fiction, news ..etc.) If you don't have the time to inculcate that, I have heard that Kaplan has a good strategy section for the RC, although I didn't use it...I also think that writing up a schedule (no of questions/time available) to feel your way through both the quant and the verbal section. That is the best way to handle time trouble.

I took the day off and took it from 11.00 in the morning. I think you should consider making the $30 or so investment in the Manhattan GMAT CD (You get 8 tests) and buy the paper tests from ETS. I actually borrowed the Manhattan CD from a friend. I thought that the questions and explanations were quite good. Yup, this was my first (and last [dance]) time..

Hey everybody So, its done and I am quite relieved and happy. Pumped my fist a couple of times after seeing the score, cos I was glad that I wouldn't have to go through this again as it is a b1tch studying for the GMAT when you are working 12-13 hour days. Needless to say, kudos to Erin for maintaining such a wonderful and productive forum. I used this forum mainly to practice questions on probability and reading the experiences of some people, however, I would advise people who are practicing this particular section extensively that ETS really does not test probability in depth. I faced a few probability questions on the test, however, they were really really basic stuff. I have noticed that this is a recurring theme in some other posts, so I thought I would emphasize this point. I believe that the Powerprep scores are your best predictor of what you get on the final test. I got 750 and 760 respectively on the Powerprep. Personally, I feel all other scores are really irrelevant as they do not emulate the algorithms used internally by Powerprep. I had taken a few tests (Manhattan GMAT CD and a couple of Princeton Review) before I took the Powerprep but had not touched the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] (9th edition) (this is key, if you have seen any of the questions, your score is going to be inaccurate). I think that the Math on the final test was reasonably tough. Disclaimer: I am not in the hellogmat league although I still got the same score, I have seen a few of his kind during my undergrad :). I have a feeling that the software turns up the heat midway through the test to figure out how good you really are if you have started well enough. This was because the questions got really tough around the 20-25 mark and kind of leveled out towards the end. The tough questions test your strength in basic algebra/arithmetic, so there is no real way of preparing for those. There were atleast three questions where I started solving a question, then had to take a step back and forced myself to look for the shortcut. I found it on two occassions and had to use brute force on the other (all basic arithmetic/algebra) . The questions I saw on the quant section of the test were good quality questions and I haven't seen a comparable set in ANY of the testing software. I know that I got one question wrong, a moderately tricky DS question on geometric sequences, because I realized it as soon as I hit confirm. That haunted me throughout the test, as you can imagine. I think it is possible that you get more than one wrong and still get a 50, the software is adaptive, so I could easily have made another mistake. The difficulty level of the verbal section on the test, as has been observed before, is the same as that of the questions in the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip]. I got 4 RC's, one sneaked up on me (110 line RC on corporate governance and ethics) with 5 minutes to go. I think this happens quite often, so be ready for it, have read it on a few other posts! My verbal scores have been fairly stable from the beginning. Both the tests in Powerprep, I had 4-5 mistakes in verbal and ended up with 45/44. My usual pattern of mistakes would be 1-2 RC, 0-1 CR and 1-2 wrong in SC. On, the test, I got one of the now infamous, boldface questions. It was of moderate difficulty and I am not sure if I got it right. I think it is a waste of time to do any questions outside the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] after you stabilize your timing. After the Powerprep tests, I pretty much quit doing the verbal sections on my practice tests etc. cos the questions are not comparable to that on the GMAT. I went through the last 50 questions on the [tooltip=Official Guide]OG[/tooltip] for the sections on CR and Verbal. I advise everyone to read the explanations of ALL the questions in SC even if you get them right. Just helps you understand some of the nuances better; this is especiallly for people (like me) with English as your second language. AWA: Really, if you have been composing half decent email communications to your colleagues in your work life, arguing an issue and you read the newspapers, you shouldn't have a problem with any of the questions. I hadn't prepared for the essays and this showed in my first issue question where I was editing the essay down to the final second. I think structure is important and spending half an hour charting out in your mind as to how you want to write your argument is important. Test Prep: A little bit of everything. a few tests on the Manhattan GMAT Cd (I actually liked this CD, although the math is not really comparable) , a couple of math and verbal sections from 800 GMAT downloaded from K@z@@, a few math sections from Kaplan (they are crap, according to me). I think the best book apart from the Og to prepare for the verbal section is the book focused on the verbal section by Princeton, just because of the insight it gives you in handling the SC section. I also browsed through some of the Math questions on the official guide and worked out 4 complete verbal sections on the Paper tests released by ETS. Long email, hopes this helps some folks out there. Best of luck to everybody out there. Btw, a little bit about me as I know that it helps if you know the profile of a person when you read these posts, undergrad IIT Bombay, MS - Gtech..Go Jackets..For all Bschool aspirants, the GMAT is a necessary evil..I think there will be many more exasperating moments to come before you finally put together that final application. Cheers y'all quickdraw77

Manish's coordinates are correct

I am not sure if the answer is correct if order matters. If the groups were A, B and C, then we would have a lot more possible combinations

3x/50x* (100) is the answer..=6%..

if total no of students = x, ratio of mm to nmm = 2:5 => mm=2/7(x) and nmm = 5/7(x) ..when 2 mm enter class total no of mm = 2/7(x) + 2..this is also equal to 1/3(x+2) as ratio of mm:nmm now is 1/3:2/3..solve for x and you get the answer..28..if I havent goofed in my calcs.